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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: "Pali Rohár" <pali.rohar@gmail.com>
Cc: Mike Snitzer <snitzer@redhat.com>,
	Alasdair Kergon <agk@redhat.com>, Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	Len Brown <len.brown@intel.com>,
	dm-devel@redhat.com, linux-raid@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] dm-crypt: Adds support for wiping key when doing suspend/hibernation
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2015 08:50:16 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150414065016.GB20597@amd> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150409143827.GK12339@atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz>

Hi!

> > > > > So proper way is to wipe luks crypto keys *after* userspace processes
> > > > > are freezed.
> > > > 
> > > > I know you believe that I'm just not accepting that at face value.
> > > 
> > > If disks are synced before any DM suspend operation then we have higher
> > > chance of preventing data corruption.
> > 
> > disks are already synced as part of the DM suspend operation!
> > 
> 
> Yes, but part of hibernate operation is also sync call.

Yes. Maybe that was a mistake.

> > > I still think that correct order is only:
> > > 
> > > * freeze processes (which doing continous I/O)
> > > * fs & disk sync
> > > * DM suspend
> > > * wipe crypto keys
> > > * enter hibernate
> > 
> > I just don't think that extreme is _required_ to have a hibernate/resume
> > that incorporates dm-crypt key wiping.
> 
> Ok, and what other developers think?

If someone can fix freezer to work with LUKS stopped, that would be a 
good thing. Can you do it, Mike? Then we can look if it works well
enough for Pali.

But that might be too hard / impossible. And at that point, I think
Pali's patch is right thing to do.
									Pavel
-- 
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  reply	other threads:[~2015-04-14  6:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-04-05 17:20 [PATCH 0/3] dm-crypt: Adds support for wiping key when doing suspend/hibernation Pali Rohár
2015-04-05 17:20 ` [PATCH 1/3] PM suspend/hibernate: Call notifier after freezing processes Pali Rohár
2015-04-09  0:28   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-04-09  6:36     ` Pali Rohár
2015-04-09 17:13       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-04-09 16:55         ` Pali Rohár
2015-04-05 17:20 ` [PATCH 2/3] dm: Export function dm_suspend_md() Pali Rohár
2015-04-05 17:20 ` [PATCH 3/3] dm-crypt: Adds support for wiping key when doing suspend/hibernation Pali Rohár
2015-04-05 17:20   ` Pali Rohár
2015-04-07 13:55   ` [dm-devel] " Alasdair G Kergon
2015-04-06 13:00 ` [PATCH 0/3] " Mike Snitzer
2015-04-06 13:00   ` Mike Snitzer
2015-04-06 13:25   ` Pavel Machek
2015-04-06 20:51     ` Mike Snitzer
2015-04-06 21:13       ` Why wipe crypto keys during suspend (was Re: [PATCH 0/3] dm-crypt: Adds support for wiping key when doing suspend/hibernation) Pavel Machek
2015-04-06 13:29   ` [PATCH 0/3] dm-crypt: Adds support for wiping key when doing suspend/hibernation Pali Rohár
2015-04-06 18:17     ` Pavel Machek
2015-04-06 21:27       ` Pali Rohár
2015-04-09 13:12     ` Mike Snitzer
2015-04-09 13:28       ` Pali Rohár
2015-04-09 14:08         ` Mike Snitzer
2015-04-09 14:16           ` Pali Rohár
2015-04-09 14:16             ` Pali Rohár
2015-04-09 14:26             ` Mike Snitzer
2015-04-09 14:38               ` Pali Rohár
2015-04-14  6:50                 ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2015-04-23 17:02                   ` Pali Rohár
2015-04-16  9:23           ` Alex Elsayed
2015-04-17  7:52             ` Mike Snitzer
2015-04-17  8:52               ` Ondrej Kozina
2015-04-17  8:52                 ` [dm-devel] " Ondrej Kozina
2015-04-17 15:53               ` Alex Elsayed
2015-04-14  6:41       ` Pavel Machek
2015-06-21 11:20 ` [PATCH v2 " Pali Rohár
2015-06-21 11:20   ` Pali Rohár
2015-06-21 11:20   ` [PATCH v2 1/3] PM suspend/hibernate: Call notifier after freezing processes Pali Rohár
2015-06-21 11:20     ` Pali Rohár
2015-07-16  1:02     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-07-16  7:33       ` Pali Rohár
2015-07-17 23:27         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-07-20  7:32           ` Pali Rohár
2015-07-20 21:46             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-07-21 22:08               ` NeilBrown
2015-07-21 23:00                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-07-21 23:03                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-12-27 14:29                     ` Pali Rohár
2015-06-21 11:20   ` [PATCH v2 2/3] dm: Export function dm_suspend_md() Pali Rohár
2015-06-21 11:20     ` Pali Rohár
2015-07-17 14:04     ` Mike Snitzer
2015-07-17 14:22       ` Pali Rohár
2015-07-17 15:22         ` Mike Snitzer
2015-07-17 15:30           ` Mike Snitzer
2015-07-17 17:13             ` Pali Rohár
2015-07-17 17:31               ` Mike Snitzer
2015-06-21 11:20   ` [PATCH v2 3/3] dm-crypt: Adds support for wiping key when doing suspend/hibernation Pali Rohár
2015-06-21 11:20     ` Pali Rohár
2015-07-28 14:44     ` Pavel Machek
2015-07-28 14:48       ` Pali Rohár
2015-07-07  7:59   ` [PATCH v2 0/3] " Pali Rohár
2015-07-07  7:59     ` Pali Rohár

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