From: "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>
To: Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Cc: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>, Fam Zheng <famz@redhat.com>,
Lai Jiangshan <laijs@cn.fujitsu.com>,
qemu block <qemu-block@nongnu.org>,
armbru@redhat.com, jcody@redhat.com,
Jiang Yunhong <yunhong.jiang@intel.com>,
Dong Eddie <eddie.dong@intel.com>,
qemu devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>, Max Reitz <mreitz@redhat.com>,
Gonglei <arei.gonglei@huawei.com>,
Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>,
Yang Hongyang <yanghy@cn.fujitsu.com>,
zhanghailiang <zhang.zhanghailiang@huawei.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH COLO v3 01/14] docs: block replication's description
Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2015 13:05:33 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150423120533.GF2177@work-vm> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5538DD52.3020101@redhat.com>
* Paolo Bonzini (pbonzini@redhat.com) wrote:
>
>
> On 23/04/2015 13:36, Kevin Wolf wrote:
> > Crap. Then we need to figure out dynamic reconfiguration for filters
> > (CCed Markus and Jeff).
> >
> > And this is really part of the fundamental operation mode and not just a
> > way to give users a way to change their mind at runtime? Because if it
> > were, we could go forward without that for the start and add dynamic
> > reconfiguration in a second step.
>
> I honestly don't know. Wen, David?
As presented at the moment, I don't see there's any dynamic reconfiguration
on the primary side at the moment - it starts up in the configuration with
the quorum(disk, NBD), and that's the way it stays throughout the fault-tolerant
setup; the primary doesn't start running until the secondary is connected.
Similarly the secondary startups in the configuration and stays that way;
the interesting question to me is what happens after a failure.
If the secondary fails, then your primary is still quorum(disk, NBD) but
the NBD side is dead - so I don't think you need to do anything there
immediately.
If the primary fails, and the secondary takes over, then a lot of the
stuff on the secondary now becomes redundent; does that stay the same
and just operate in some form of passthrough - or does it need to
change configuration?
The hard part to me is how to bring it back into fault-tolerance now;
after a primary failure, the secondary now needs to morph into something
like a primary, and somehow you need to bring up a new secondary
and get that new secondary an image of the primaries current disk.
Dave
> Paolo
>
> > Anyway, even if we move it to a second step, it looks like we need to
> > design something rather soon now.
--
Dr. David Alan Gilbert / dgilbert@redhat.com / Manchester, UK
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-04-23 12:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-04-03 10:01 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH COLO v3 00/14] Block replication for continuous checkpoints Wen Congyang
2015-04-03 10:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH COLO v3 01/14] docs: block replication's description Wen Congyang
2015-04-20 15:30 ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-04-21 1:25 ` Wen Congyang
2015-04-21 15:28 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-04-22 9:18 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-04-22 9:28 ` Wen Congyang
2015-04-23 9:55 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-04-23 10:11 ` Wen Congyang
2015-04-22 9:31 ` Kevin Wolf
2015-04-22 10:12 ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2015-04-23 9:00 ` Kevin Wolf
2015-04-23 9:14 ` Wen Congyang
2015-04-23 10:05 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-04-23 10:17 ` Kevin Wolf
2015-04-23 10:33 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-04-23 10:40 ` Kevin Wolf
2015-04-23 10:44 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-04-23 11:35 ` Wen Congyang
2015-04-23 11:36 ` Kevin Wolf
2015-04-23 11:53 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-04-23 12:05 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert [this message]
2015-04-23 12:11 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-04-23 12:19 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-04-23 12:23 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-04-24 2:01 ` Fam Zheng
2015-04-24 2:16 ` Wen Congyang
2015-04-24 7:47 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-04-24 7:55 ` Wen Congyang
2015-04-24 8:58 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-04-24 9:04 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-04-24 9:38 ` Wen Congyang
2015-04-24 9:36 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-04-24 9:53 ` Wen Congyang
2015-04-24 10:03 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-04-27 9:37 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-04-29 8:29 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-04-29 8:37 ` Gonglei
2015-04-30 14:56 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-05-05 15:23 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-05-06 2:26 ` Dong, Eddie
2015-05-06 2:49 ` Fam Zheng
2015-05-08 8:42 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-05-08 9:34 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-05-08 9:39 ` Kevin Wolf
2015-05-08 9:55 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-04-23 9:26 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-04-23 9:37 ` Kevin Wolf
2015-04-23 9:41 ` Wen Congyang
2015-04-22 9:29 ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-04-22 9:42 ` Wen Congyang
2015-04-22 10:39 ` [Qemu-devel] " Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2015-04-03 10:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH COLO v3 02/14] quorum: allow ignoring child errors Wen Congyang
2015-04-03 10:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH COLO v3 03/14] NBD client: connect to nbd server later Wen Congyang
2015-04-03 10:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH COLO v3 04/14] Add new block driver interfaces to control block replication Wen Congyang
2015-04-22 12:56 ` Eric Blake
2015-04-03 10:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH COLO v3 05/14] quorum: implement block driver interfaces for " Wen Congyang
2015-04-03 10:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH COLO v3 06/14] NBD client: " Wen Congyang
2015-04-03 10:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH COLO v3 07/14] allow writing to the backing file Wen Congyang
2015-04-03 10:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH COLO v3 08/14] Allow creating backup jobs when opening BDS Wen Congyang
2015-04-03 11:06 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-04-03 10:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH COLO v3 09/14] block: Parse "backing_reference" option to reference existing BDS Wen Congyang
2015-04-03 10:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH COLO v3 10/14] util/hbitmap: Add an API to reset all set bits in hbitmap Wen Congyang
2015-04-03 11:05 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-01 16:47 ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] " John Snow
2015-05-07 2:20 ` Wen Congyang
2015-05-07 18:32 ` John Snow
2015-05-08 0:59 ` Wen Congyang
2015-04-03 10:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH COLO v3 11/14] Backup: clear all bitmap when doing block checkpoint Wen Congyang
2015-04-03 11:09 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-04-07 1:45 ` Wen Congyang
2015-04-03 10:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH COLO v3 12/14] qcow2: support colo Wen Congyang
2015-04-03 10:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH COLO v3 13/14] skip nbd_target when starting block replication Wen Congyang
2015-04-03 10:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH COLO v3 14/14] Don't allow a disk use backing reference target Wen Congyang
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