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From: Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>
To: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>
Cc: Alexei Starovoitov <ast@plumgrid.com>,
	Wang Nan <wangnan0@huawei.com>,
	paulus@samba.org, a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl, mingo@redhat.com,
	jolsa@kernel.org, dsahern@gmail.com, daniel@iogearbox.net,
	brendan.d.gregg@gmail.com, masami.hiramatsu.pt@hitachi.com,
	lizefan@huawei.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	pi3orama@163.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v3 00/37] perf tools: introduce 'perf bpf' command to load eBPF programs.
Date: Wed, 20 May 2015 09:30:52 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150520003052.GE22713@sejong> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150519211033.GF19921@kernel.org>

On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 06:10:33PM -0300, Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo wrote:
> Em Tue, May 19, 2015 at 01:46:10PM -0700, Alexei Starovoitov escreveu:
> > On 5/19/15 9:40 AM, Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo wrote:
> > >Em Wed, May 20, 2015 at 01:04:48AM +0900, Namhyung Kim escreveu:
> > >>If we go with 'perf record' rather than 'perf bpf record', I agree
> > >>that --event option is more natural than --filter.  The --event option
> > >>says that it will record - or enable, at least - a (kprobe) event for
> > >>bpf programs in it and then do something with it. :)
> > >>
> > >>Maybe something like this?
> > >>
> > >>   perf record --event bpf:/path/to/object
> > >
> > >The syntax maybe one of many, say if it sees a ".o" suffix in the even
> > >name, look if the provided event name is a file and if this file has the
> > >ELF header, whatever.
> > 
> > agree. 'bpf:' prefix is redundant.
> 
> I would say unnecessarily exposing an implementation detail :-)
> 
> > To me the following syntax is fine:
> > perf record --event bpf_file.o
> 
> Agreed, for something pre-compiled.
> 
> > In the future it can support automatically:
> > perf record --event bpf_file.c
> 
> Right, to compile it, then use the resulting bpf_file.o just like in the
> first case, then, on another patch, cache it and next time just check
> that the contents of the file hasn't changed, so the .o file can be
> used, i.e. ccache like stuff.
>  
> > Wang, thoughts?
> > 
> > >>Oh, this looks like an interesting approach.. are you saying something
> > >>like below?
> > >
> > >No, those are way too many steps :-)
> > >
> > >What 'perf script' does? Right now you can ask for a script to run and
> > >it will both start 'perf record' with the proper events, and then
> > >"immediately" consume it, piping the output of the 'record' "script" to
> > >the consumer, that is 'perf script' itself running an interpreter, perl
> > >or python.
> > 
> > if you're proposing to do something like:
> > perf script bpf_file.c
> > that will do event creation, filtering, aggregation, reporting
> > and printing results, then it's fine.
> > This is pretty much what I thought 'perf bpf run' will do.
> 
> Agreed, that is what I think should be done, parts of what is in
> bpf.file.c are related to the data collection, some are for filtering,
> and parts are for reporting, etc.

Looks great! :)

> 
> This all should use infrastructure in perf for symbol resolving,
> callcahins, etc.

But then we need to stabilize libperf APIs IMHO. :)

Thanks,
Namhyung

  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-05-20  0:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 108+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-05-17 10:56 [RFC PATCH v3 00/37] perf tools: introduce 'perf bpf' command to load eBPF programs Wang Nan
2015-05-17 10:56 ` [RFC PATCH v3 01/37] perf/events/core: fix race in bpf program unregister Wang Nan
2015-05-18 16:59   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-05-17 10:56 ` [RFC PATCH v3 02/37] perf tools: Set vmlinux_path__nr_entries to 0 in vmlinux_path__exit Wang Nan
2015-05-18 17:01   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-05-18 20:28     ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2015-05-20 12:25   ` [tip:perf/core] " tip-bot for Wang Nan
2015-05-17 10:56 ` [RFC PATCH v3 03/37] tools lib traceevent: Install libtraceevent.a into libdir Wang Nan
2015-05-18 14:28   ` Jiri Olsa
2015-05-20 12:26   ` [tip:perf/core] " tip-bot for Wang Nan
2015-05-17 10:56 ` [RFC PATCH v3 04/37] tools: Change FEATURE_TESTS and FEATURE_DISPLAY to weak binding Wang Nan
2015-05-18 14:30   ` Jiri Olsa
2015-05-20 12:26   ` [tip:perf/core] tools build: " tip-bot for Wang Nan
2015-05-17 10:56 ` [RFC PATCH v3 05/37] tools: Add __aligned_u64 to types.h Wang Nan
2015-05-17 10:56 ` [RFC PATCH v3 06/37] bpf tools: Introduce 'bpf' library to tools Wang Nan
2015-05-18 17:35   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-05-20  3:48     ` Wangnan (F)
2015-05-20  5:24       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-05-21  0:24         ` Wangnan (F)
2015-05-21 17:53           ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-05-21  7:10     ` Wangnan (F)
2015-05-17 10:56 ` [RFC PATCH v3 07/37] bpf tools: Allow caller to set printing function Wang Nan
2015-05-18 17:55   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-05-17 10:56 ` [RFC PATCH v3 08/37] bpf tools: Define basic interface Wang Nan
2015-05-18 17:57   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-05-22 17:22     ` Jiri Olsa
2015-05-17 10:56 ` [RFC PATCH v3 09/37] bpf tools: Open eBPF object file and do basic validation Wang Nan
2015-05-18 18:06   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-05-22 17:22   ` Jiri Olsa
2015-05-22 17:23   ` Jiri Olsa
2015-05-23  1:00     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-05-25 13:30       ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2015-05-26  0:05         ` Wangnan (F)
2015-05-26  0:41           ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2015-05-17 10:56 ` [RFC PATCH v3 10/37] bpf tools: Check endianess and set swap flag according to EHDR Wang Nan
2015-05-18 18:19   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-05-17 10:56 ` [RFC PATCH v3 11/37] bpf tools: Iterate over ELF sections to collect information Wang Nan
2015-05-18 18:21   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-05-17 10:56 ` [RFC PATCH v3 12/37] bpf tools: Collect version and license from ELF sections Wang Nan
2015-05-18 18:27   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-05-18 20:34     ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2015-05-18 20:51       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-05-17 10:56 ` [RFC PATCH v3 13/37] bpf tools: Collect map definitions from 'maps' section Wang Nan
2015-05-17 10:56 ` [RFC PATCH v3 14/37] bpf tools: Collect config string from 'config' section Wang Nan
2015-05-18 18:30   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-05-17 10:56 ` [RFC PATCH v3 15/37] bpf tools: Collect symbol table from SHT_SYMTAB section Wang Nan
2015-05-17 10:56 ` [RFC PATCH v3 16/37] bpf tools: Collect eBPF programs from their own sections Wang Nan
2015-05-18 12:29   ` Namhyung Kim
2015-05-18 12:47     ` Wangnan (F)
2015-05-18 18:32       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-05-17 10:56 ` [RFC PATCH v3 17/37] bpf tools: Collect relocation sections from SHT_REL sections Wang Nan
2015-05-17 10:56 ` [RFC PATCH v3 18/37] bpf tools: Record map accessing instructions for each program Wang Nan
2015-05-18 18:34   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-05-25  7:39     ` Wangnan (F)
2015-05-17 10:56 ` [RFC PATCH v3 19/37] bpf tools: Clear libelf and ELF parsing resrouce to finish opening Wang Nan
2015-05-18 18:36   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-05-18 20:35     ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2015-05-17 10:56 ` [RFC PATCH v3 20/37] bpf tools: Add bpf.c/h for common bpf operations Wang Nan
2015-05-18 18:39   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-05-22 17:24   ` Jiri Olsa
2015-05-17 10:56 ` [RFC PATCH v3 21/37] bpf tools: Create eBPF maps defined in an object file Wang Nan
2015-05-18 18:48   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-05-18 20:37     ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2015-05-25  9:23     ` Wangnan (F)
2015-05-22 17:23   ` Jiri Olsa
2015-05-17 10:56 ` [RFC PATCH v3 22/37] bpf tools: Relocate eBPF programs Wang Nan
2015-05-17 10:56 ` [RFC PATCH v3 23/37] bpf tools: Introduce bpf_load_program() to bpf.c Wang Nan
2015-05-18 18:52   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-05-18 20:37     ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2015-05-17 10:56 ` [RFC PATCH v3 24/37] bpf tools: Load eBPF programs in object files into kernel Wang Nan
2015-05-17 10:56 ` [RFC PATCH v3 25/37] bpf tools: Introduce accessors for struct bpf_program Wang Nan
2015-05-17 10:56 ` [RFC PATCH v3 26/37] bpf tools: Introduce accessors for struct bpf_object Wang Nan
2015-05-17 10:56 ` [RFC PATCH v3 27/37] perf tools: Add new 'perf bpf' command Wang Nan
2015-05-17 10:56 ` [RFC PATCH v3 28/37] perf tools: Make perf depend on libbpf Wang Nan
2015-05-22 17:24   ` Jiri Olsa
2015-05-17 10:56 ` [RFC PATCH v3 29/37] perf bpf: Add 'perf bpf record' subcommand Wang Nan
2015-05-17 10:56 ` [RFC PATCH v3 30/37] perf bpf: Add bpf-loader and open ELF object files Wang Nan
2015-05-22 17:24   ` Jiri Olsa
2015-05-25 11:47     ` Wangnan (F)
2015-05-25 13:00     ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2015-05-17 10:56 ` [RFC PATCH v3 31/37] perf bpf: Collect all eBPF programs Wang Nan
2015-05-17 10:56 ` [RFC PATCH v3 32/37] perf bpf: Parse probe points of eBPF programs during preparation Wang Nan
2015-05-22 17:24   ` Jiri Olsa
2015-05-17 10:56 ` [RFC PATCH v3 33/37] perf bpf: Probe at kprobe points Wang Nan
2015-05-18 19:25   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-05-17 10:56 ` [RFC PATCH v3 34/37] perf bpf: Load all eBPF object into kernel Wang Nan
2015-05-17 10:57 ` [RFC PATCH v3 35/37] perf tools: Add a bpf_wrapper global flag Wang Nan
2015-05-17 10:57 ` [RFC PATCH v3 36/37] perf tools: Add bpf_fd field to evsel and config it Wang Nan
2015-05-17 10:57 ` [RFC PATCH v3 37/37] perf tools: Attach eBPF program to perf event Wang Nan
2015-05-18 19:38 ` [RFC PATCH v3 00/37] perf tools: introduce 'perf bpf' command to load eBPF programs Alexei Starovoitov
2015-05-18 20:44   ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2015-05-18 21:05     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-05-18 21:20       ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2015-05-18 21:45         ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-05-19 13:44           ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2015-05-19 16:04             ` Namhyung Kim
2015-05-19 16:40               ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2015-05-19 20:46                 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-05-19 21:10                   ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2015-05-19 21:42                     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-05-19 22:05                       ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2015-05-20  1:02                         ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-05-20  1:14                           ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2015-05-20  0:30                     ` Namhyung Kim [this message]
2015-05-20  0:43                       ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2015-05-26  6:22                   ` Wangnan (F)
2015-05-20  0:23                 ` Namhyung Kim
2015-05-20  0:37                   ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo

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