From: Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>
To: James Bottomley <jbottomley@odin.com>
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Subject: Re: [RFC v1] tree-wide: remove "select FW_LOADER" uses
Date: Mon, 25 May 2015 12:29:41 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150525192941.GH1037@x> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1432580834.2195.6.camel@Odin.com>
On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 07:07:14PM +0000, James Bottomley wrote:
> On Mon, 2015-05-25 at 10:54 -0700, Josh Triplett wrote:
> > On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 12:55:17PM +0200, Paul Bolle wrote:
> > > On Fri, 2015-05-22 at 14:43 -0700, josh@joshtriplett.org wrote:
> > > > Ideally, someone should teach Kconfig to handle recursive dependencies,
> > >
> > > I'm probably reading too much in this remark, but how should it handle
> > > that other than returning an error because the configuration it's fed
> > > makes it run in circles?
> >
> > I don't mean cyclic dependencies (for which Kconfig should just report
> > an error, ideally including the full list of symbols forming the cycle).
> >
> > I mean that Kconfig should do recursive dependency resolution. If B
> > depends on A, and C depends on B, I should be able to turn on C
> > directly and have B and A enabled.
>
> That's really hard in practise you have to make any symbol that selects
> something depend on the dependencies of the selected symbol. You can't
> do this without involving a SAT solver. A guy promised to do this a
> couple of years ago, but the patches never materialised. However, they
> may exist somewhere if someone wants to take a look at completing it.
You can't do this in the completely general case without a SAT solver.
However, I think it's possible to help the user a bit more than than
Kconfig currently does without introducing a general dependency solver.
In particular, it'd be nice to have an easy way to see at a glance
"can't enable C because it depends on B", together with an easy way to
get to B to enable it to get to C. User-guided dependency resolution
seems like an improvement over no dependency resolution.
- Josh Triplett
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-05-25 19:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-05-21 20:45 [RFC v1] tree-wide: remove "select FW_LOADER" uses Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-05-21 22:21 ` Borislav Petkov
2015-05-22 6:53 ` Borislav Petkov
2015-05-22 7:11 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-05-22 7:41 ` Borislav Petkov
2015-05-22 7:45 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-05-22 7:56 ` Borislav Petkov
2015-05-22 8:17 ` Paul Bolle
2015-05-22 8:24 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-05-22 8:26 ` Borislav Petkov
2015-05-22 8:44 ` Takashi Iwai
2015-05-22 9:06 ` Paul Bolle
2015-05-22 9:56 ` Takashi Iwai
2015-05-22 17:43 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-05-22 17:57 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2015-05-22 18:19 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-05-22 18:52 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2015-05-22 19:28 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-05-22 20:22 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2015-05-22 21:43 ` josh
2015-05-22 22:22 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-05-22 22:33 ` Herbert Xu
2015-05-22 23:02 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-05-22 23:54 ` Josh Triplett
2015-05-23 7:14 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-05-25 10:55 ` Paul Bolle
2015-05-25 17:54 ` Josh Triplett
2015-05-25 18:25 ` Paul Bolle
2015-05-25 19:06 ` Josh Triplett
2015-05-25 19:16 ` Paul Bolle
2015-05-25 19:07 ` James Bottomley
2015-05-25 19:29 ` Josh Triplett [this message]
2015-05-25 21:29 ` James Bottomley
2015-05-26 0:47 ` Josh Triplett
2015-05-26 1:33 ` James Bottomley
2015-05-26 8:28 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-05-25 10:59 ` Paul Bolle
2015-05-22 19:30 ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2015-05-22 20:12 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-05-25 9:27 ` Paul Bolle
2015-05-25 11:10 ` Paul Bolle
2015-05-22 8:32 ` Paul Bolle
2015-05-22 9:05 ` Borislav Petkov
2015-05-22 9:20 ` Paul Bolle
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