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From: Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>
To: Richard Weinberger <richard.weinberger@gmail.com>
Cc: "Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult" <weigelt@melag.de>,
	"Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@do-not-panic.com>,
	"backports@vger.kernel.org" <backports@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Julia Lawall <julia.lawall@lip6.fr>
Subject: Re: Uses of Linux backports in the industry
Date: Fri, 29 May 2015 13:36:09 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150529173609.GF18540@thunk.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFLxGvz1-2sm74dmWZ4QpyC4TSubP4OHj=6Z8aVhvjqA2+WkZw@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 05:01:00PM +0200, Richard Weinberger wrote:
> On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 4:53 PM, Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
> <weigelt@melag.de> wrote:
> > Am 29.05.2015 um 04:54 schrieb Luis R. Rodriguez:
> > Actually, I really wonder why folks are sticking to ancient kernels on
> > newer hardware.
> 
> Enterprise distribution kernels. Or "special" kernels like PREEMPT_RT.
> Sometimes the vendor BSP is that horrid that a customer cannot afford
> to forward port it
> but wants recent stuff. So you need to backport...

Yep.  The technique I used for the backporting ext4 encryption into
the 3.10 android-common git tree in AOSP was to drop in the 3.18
versions of fs/ext4 and fs/jbd2 into the 3.10 tree (along with the
associaed include files in include/linux and include/trace/events, of
course), and then fix things up until they built correctly (using
cherry-picks and in some cases, reverting some changes in the 3.18
version of fs/ext4).  After I was sure the transplant of the 3.18
version of ext4 had "taken" correctly, with no test regressions, only
then did I cherry-pick all of the ext4 encryption changes on top of
3.10.

The backport of ext4 encryption to the 3.18 version of android-common
should be much easier.  :-)   Unfortunately, I also have to do a
backport to the 3.14 android-common branch as well.   <sigh>

Yes, it's ugly, but there still are some SOC and drivers that aren't
available on newer kernels.  Basically, the handset vendors need to
lean a lot harder on the SOC and other peripheral (cell radios, GPS,
etc., etc.).  :-(

    	  	     	   	   	      - Ted

  reply	other threads:[~2015-05-29 17:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-05-29  2:54 Uses of Linux backports in the industry Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-05-29  7:00 ` Johannes Berg
2015-05-29  8:08   ` Arend van Spriel
2015-05-29  8:29     ` Julia Lawall
2015-05-29 16:41     ` Arend van Spriel
2015-05-29 16:33   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-05-29 18:47     ` Johannes Berg
2015-05-29 14:53 ` Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
2015-05-29 15:01   ` Richard Weinberger
2015-05-29 17:36     ` Theodore Ts'o [this message]
2015-05-29 17:51       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-06-23 18:49       ` Pavel Machek
2015-06-23 18:49         ` Pavel Machek
2015-06-24  9:12       ` Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
2015-06-24  9:12         ` Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
2015-06-24  9:09     ` Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
2015-06-24  9:09       ` Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
2015-06-24  9:19       ` Richard Weinberger
2015-06-24  9:19         ` Richard Weinberger
2015-06-24  9:55         ` Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
2015-06-24  9:55           ` Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
2015-06-24 10:18           ` Richard Weinberger
2015-06-24 10:18             ` Richard Weinberger
2015-06-01 18:50 ` Felix Fietkau
2015-06-01 20:03   ` Julia Lawall
2015-06-24 10:13   ` Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
2015-06-24 10:13     ` Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
2015-06-02 19:05 ` Szymon Janc

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