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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Alexander Holler <holler@ahsoftware.de>
Cc: Richard Weinberger <richard.weinberger@gmail.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Tejun Heo <htejun@gmail.com>,
	Louis Langholtz <lou_langholtz@me.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Trivial patch monkey <trivial@kernel.org>,
	Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] debug: Deprecate BUG_ON() use in new code, introduce CRASH_ON()
Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2015 21:35:14 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150608193514.GA13053@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5575D9C4.50204@ahsoftware.de>


* Alexander Holler <holler@ahsoftware.de> wrote:

> Am 08.06.2015 um 13:27 schrieb Ingo Molnar:
> >
> >* Alexander Holler <holler@ahsoftware.de> wrote:
> >
> >>>I am pretty certain that Greg would have applied such a patch in an eye blink.
> >>
> >>As you've said it, *probably*. But such a simple exit path as you're proposing
> >>doesn't always exist. [...]
> >
> >As I said it's case by case. I discussed your example (which was a deficient patch
> >for multiple reasons) but we'd be wasting everyone's time by discussion
> >hypothethical situations.
> 
> Sure it was a deficient patch, but still better than what existed for a year 
> long in the kernel [...]

... but it was still worse than the simple solution I suggested:

	if (WARN_ON_ONCE(port->itty))
		return;

again, the BUG_ON() you wanted to introduce was wrong on multiple grounds, then 
and now. Why are you still arguing about this?

> I just want to make clear that a brutforce slogan like BUG_ON is bad is bad,

I pointed out specific cases where a BUG_ON() is the right solution. They are 
rare. Stop misrepresenting my words.

Thanks,

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2015-06-08 19:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <http://marc.info/?l=linux-kernel&m=143351431301630>
2015-06-07 23:54 ` [PATCH] kernel/params.c: make use of unused but set variable Louis Langholtz
2015-06-08  0:00   ` Tejun Heo
2015-06-08  0:17     ` Linus Torvalds
2015-06-08  0:58       ` Tejun Heo
2015-06-08  5:24         ` [PATCH v2] " Louis Langholtz
2015-06-10 17:05         ` [PATCH] " Louis Langholtz
2015-06-11  1:54           ` Tejun Heo
2015-06-12  3:17             ` Louis Langholtz
2015-06-08  5:44       ` [PATCH] checkpatch: Warn on BUG and BUG_ON uses Joe Perches
2015-06-08  5:46       ` [PATCH] kernel/params.c: make use of unused but set variable Louis Langholtz
2015-06-08  7:12       ` [PATCH] debug: Deprecate BUG_ON() use in new code, introduce CRASH_ON() Ingo Molnar
2015-06-08  7:40         ` Alexander Holler
2015-06-08  8:08           ` Richard Weinberger
2015-06-08  8:42             ` Alexander Holler
2015-06-08  9:05               ` Ingo Molnar
2015-06-08  9:11                 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-06-08  9:22                   ` Alexander Holler
2015-06-08 11:29                     ` Ingo Molnar
2015-06-08  9:16                 ` Alexander Holler
2015-06-08 11:27                   ` Ingo Molnar
2015-06-08 18:07                     ` Alexander Holler
2015-06-08 19:35                       ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2015-06-09  1:07                         ` Alexander Holler
2015-06-08  8:09           ` Ingo Molnar
2015-06-12  1:27       ` [PATCH] kernel/params.c: make use of unused but set variable Rusty Russell
2015-06-12  1:48         ` Tejun Heo
2015-06-14 19:49           ` Rusty Russell
2015-06-16 19:54             ` Tejun Heo
2015-06-08 14:26 [PATCH] debug: Deprecate BUG_ON() use in new code, introduce CRASH_ON() Alexey Dobriyan

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