From: Christoph Hellwig <hch-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
To: Sagi Grimberg <sagig-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org>
Cc: "Hefty,
Sean" <sean.hefty-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
Sagi Grimberg <sagig-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>,
Doug Ledford <dledford-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
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Boaz Harrosh <boaz-/8YdC2HfS5554TAoqtyWWQ@public.gmane.org>,
Liran Liss <liranl-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/5] IB/core: Introduce Fast Indirect Memory Registration verbs API
Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2015 05:10:02 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150630121002.GA24169@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <559281B4.6010807-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org>
On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 02:47:00PM +0300, Sagi Grimberg wrote:
> Kernel 4.1 introduced the new pmem driver for byte addressable storage
> (https://lwn.net/Articles/640115/). It won't be long before we see HA
> models where secondary persistent memory devices will sit across an
> RDMA fabric. (http://www.snia.org/sites/default/files/DougVoigt_RDMA_Requirements_for_HA.pdf)
And what does this bullshitting slide have to do with our memory models?
In it's current form the pmem driver can't even be used as a (R)DMA
target, so it's totally irrelevant for now.
Let's get a proper in-kernel interface for generic memory registrations
in place as a first step. le this will be a significant amount of work
it'll help greatly with moving nasty implementation details out of
the drivers. Adding additional registrations methods will be easy
behind the back of a proper abstraction.
> Do we want to live with this limitation forever?
I don't think anyone has refused additional support. Just the way how
it's done in your patches is a giant nightmare. The whole RDMA stack
needs a healthy dose of software engineering instead of blindly
following a working group of a marketing organisation.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-06-30 12:10 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-06-08 13:15 [PATCH 0/5] Indirect memory registration feature Sagi Grimberg
[not found] ` <1433769339-949-1-git-send-email-sagig-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-08 13:15 ` [PATCH 1/5] IB/core: Introduce Fast Indirect Memory Registration verbs API Sagi Grimberg
[not found] ` <1433769339-949-2-git-send-email-sagig-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-08 20:49 ` Hefty, Sean
[not found] ` <1828884A29C6694DAF28B7E6B8A82373A8FE5C7C-P5GAC/sN6hkd3b2yrw5b5LfspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-30 11:47 ` Sagi Grimberg
[not found] ` <559281B4.6010807-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-30 12:10 ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
[not found] ` <20150630121002.GA24169-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-30 12:59 ` Sagi Grimberg
[not found] ` <559292CE.9010303-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-01 7:23 ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-06-08 13:15 ` [PATCH 2/5] IB/mlx5: Implement Fast Indirect Memory Registration Feature Sagi Grimberg
2015-06-08 13:15 ` [PATCH 3/5] IB/iser: Pass iser device to registration routines Sagi Grimberg
2015-06-08 13:15 ` [PATCH 4/5] IB/iser: Add indirect registration support Sagi Grimberg
2015-06-08 13:15 ` [PATCH 5/5] IB/iser: Add debug prints to the various memory registration methods Sagi Grimberg
2015-06-08 13:22 ` [PATCH 0/5] Indirect memory registration feature Christoph Hellwig
[not found] ` <20150608132254.GA14773-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-08 13:39 ` Sagi Grimberg
[not found] ` <55759B0B.8050805-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-08 13:51 ` Christoph Hellwig
[not found] ` <20150608135151.GA14021-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-08 14:42 ` Sagi Grimberg
[not found] ` <5575A9C7.7000409-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-09 6:20 ` Christoph Hellwig
[not found] ` <20150609062054.GA13011-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-09 8:44 ` Sagi Grimberg
[not found] ` <5576A760.4090004-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org>
2015-06-09 11:14 ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-06-09 15:06 ` Chuck Lever
2015-06-09 7:41 ` Christoph Hellwig
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