From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
Cc: "Brown, Len" <len.brown@intel.com>,
Prarit Bhargava <prarit@redhat.com>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>,
"Chandramouli,
Dasaratharaman" <dasaratharaman.chandramouli@intel.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>, Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
Denys Vlasenko <dvlasenk@redhat.com>,
Brian Gerst <brgerst@gmail.com>,
Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86, msr: Allow read access to /dev/cpu/X/msr
Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2015 11:15:20 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150702091520.GA8539@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALCETrXd54pCdENwN1+ppwFBReLy6Tsq=mm2_X-SCQmUdhwUwQ@mail.gmail.com>
* Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 9:38 AM, Brown, Len <len.brown@intel.com> wrote:
>
> > BTW. I've had a discussion w/ LLNL about their needs, both for security and
> > performance. For security, as concluded by this thread, a white list is the
> > only way to go. I'm thinking a bit-vector of allowed MSR offsets... For
> > performance, they absolutely can not afford a system call for every single MSR
> > access.
>
> I'm surprised. On a sane kernel, a syscall is about 120 cycles. Just rdmsr to
> an unoptimized MSR is probably fifty cycles, I'd guess.
RDMSR to a non-fastpath MSR is more like a hundred cycles:
[ 104.151166] x86/bench: ---------------------------
[ 104.155350] x86/bench: | Running x86 benchmarks: |
[ 104.159530] x86/bench: -------------------------------------------------------------------
[ 104.167604] x86/bench: | RDTSC-cycles: hot (±noise) / cold (±noise)
[ 104.175870] x86/bench: -------------------------------------------------------------------
Ancient box (10 years old):
x86/bench: rdmsr : 36 / 17 (±29.4%)
x86/bench: wrmsr : 198 / 245
AMD box (2 years old):
...
[ 173.208130] x86/bench: rdmsr : 121 / 169 (±18.9%)
[ 174.633653] x86/bench: wrmsr : 365 / 422 (± 9.2%)
Intel box (1 year old):
...
[ 130.185195] x86/bench: rdmsr : 100 / 112
[ 131.263560] x86/bench: wrmsr : 492 / 728 (±15.3%)
so the RDMSR cost got progressively worse as MSRs got farther and farther away
from the core and microcode execution got progressively worse as well.
Thanks,
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-07-02 9:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-06-26 17:52 [PATCH] x86, msr: Allow read access to /dev/cpu/X/msr Prarit Bhargava
2015-06-26 18:45 ` H. Peter Anvin
2015-06-26 19:23 ` Brian Gerst
2015-06-26 21:26 ` Prarit Bhargava
2015-06-28 15:13 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2015-06-27 8:33 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-06-27 8:39 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-06-27 15:52 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-06-28 14:34 ` Prarit Bhargava
2015-06-28 15:10 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2015-06-29 6:42 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-06-29 10:58 ` Matt Fleming
2015-06-29 19:51 ` H. Peter Anvin
2015-06-30 12:20 ` Prarit Bhargava
2015-06-30 12:44 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-30 12:57 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-06-30 13:23 ` Prarit Bhargava
2015-07-01 16:38 ` Brown, Len
2015-07-01 17:33 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-02 9:15 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2015-07-02 19:22 ` H. Peter Anvin
2015-07-02 19:26 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-03 7:42 ` Ingo Molnar
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