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From: Matthew Wilcox <willy@linux.intel.com>
To: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
Cc: Matthew Wilcox <matthew.r.wilcox@intel.com>,
	Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Andreas Dilger <adilger.kernel@dilger.ca>,
	linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ext4: Return the length of a hole from get_block
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2015 09:48:51 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150714134851.GK13681@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150714090246.GA24369@quack.suse.cz>

On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 11:02:46AM +0200, Jan Kara wrote:
> On Mon 13-07-15 11:26:15, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> > On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 05:16:10PM +0200, Jan Kara wrote:
> > > On Fri 03-07-15 11:15:11, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> > > > From: Matthew Wilcox <willy@linux.intel.com>
> > > > 
> > > > Currently, if ext4's get_block encounters a hole, it does not modify the
> > > > buffer_head.  That's fine for many callers, but for DAX, it's useful to
> > > > know how large the hole is.  XFS already returns the length of the hole,
> > > > so this improvement should not confuse any callers.
> > > > 
> > > > Signed-off-by: Matthew Wilcox <willy@linux.intel.com>
> > > 
> > > So I'm somewhat wondering: What is the reason of BH_Uptodate flag being
> > > set? I can see the XFS sets it in some cases as well but the use of the
> > > flag isn't really clear to me...
> > 
> > No clue.  I'm just following the documentation in buffer.c:
> > 
> >  * NOTE! All mapped/uptodate combinations are valid:
> >  *
> >  *      Mapped  Uptodate        Meaning
> >  *
> >  *      No      No              "unknown" - must do get_block()
> >  *      No      Yes             "hole" - zero-filled
> >  *      Yes     No              "allocated" - allocated on disk, not read in
> >  *      Yes     Yes             "valid" - allocated and up-to-date in memory.
> 
> OK, but that speaks about buffer head attached to a page. get_block()
> callback gets a temporary bh (at least in some cases) only so that it can
> communicate result of block mapping. And BH_Uptodate should be set only if
> data in the buffer is properly filled (which cannot be the case for
> temporary bh which doesn't have *any* data) and it simply isn't the case
> even for bh attached to a page because ext4 get_block() functions don't
> touch bh->b_data at all. So I just wouldn't set BH_Uptodate in get_block()
> at all..

OK, but how should DAX then distinguish between an old-style filesystem
(like current ext4) which reports "unknown" and leaves b_size untouched
when it encounters a hole, versus a new-style filesystem (XFS, ext4 with
this patch) which wants to report the size of a hole in b_size?  The use
of Uptodate currently distinguishes the two cases.

Plus, why would you want bh's to be treated differently, depending on
whether they're stack-based or attached to a page?  That seems even more
confusing than bh's already are.

  reply	other threads:[~2015-07-14 13:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-07-03 15:15 [PATCH] ext4: Return the length of a hole from get_block Matthew Wilcox
2015-07-13 15:16 ` Jan Kara
2015-07-13 15:26   ` Matthew Wilcox
2015-07-14  9:02     ` Jan Kara
2015-07-14 13:48       ` Matthew Wilcox [this message]
2015-07-14 22:24         ` Dave Chinner
2015-07-15  9:59         ` Jan Kara
2015-07-16  1:46           ` Dave Chinner
2015-07-16  7:08             ` Jan Kara
2015-07-17 22:11               ` Dave Chinner

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