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From: Brian Kroth <bpkroth-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: Sage Weil <sweil-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: ceph-devel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	ceph-users-Qp0mS5GaXlQ@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: dropping old distros: el6, precise 12.04, debian wheezy?
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2015 10:58:12 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150730155812.GE15736@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1507300645130.22099-vIokxiIdD2AQNTJnQDzGJqxOck334EZe@public.gmane.org>


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Sage Weil <sweil-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org> 2015-07-30 06:54:
>As time marches on it becomes increasingly difficult to maintain proper
>builds and packages for older distros.  For example, as we make the
>systemd transition, maintaining the kludgey sysvinit and udev support for
>centos6/rhel6 is a pain in the butt and eats up time and energy to
>maintain and test that we could be spending doing more useful work.
>
>"Dropping" them would mean:
>
> - Ongoing development on master (and future versions like infernalis and
>jewel) would not be tested on these distros.
>
> - We would stop building upstream release packages on ceph.com for new
>releases.
>
> - We would probably continue building hammer and firefly packages for
>future bugfix point releases.
>
> - The downstream distros would probably continue to package them, but the
>burden would be on them.  For example, if Ubuntu wanted to ship Jewel on
>precise 12.04, they could, but they'd probably need to futz with the
>packaging and/or build environment to make it work.
>
>So... given that, I'd like to gauge user interest in these old distros.
>Specifically,
>
> CentOS6 / RHEL6
> Ubuntu precise 12.04
> Debian wheezy
>
>Would anyone miss them?
>
>In particular, dropping these three would mean we could drop sysvinit
>entirely and focus on systemd (and continue maintaining the existing
>upstart files for just a bit longer).  That would be a relief.  (The
>sysvinit files wouldn't go away in the source tree, but we wouldn't worry
>about packaging and testing them properly.)
>
>Thanks!
>sage

As I still haven't heard or seen about any upstream distros for Debian 
Jessie (see also [1]), I am still running Debian Wheezy and as that is 
supposed to be supported for another ~4 years by Debian, it would be 
very nice if there were at least stability and security fixes backported 
for the upstream ceph package repositories for that platform.

Additionally, I'll note that I'm personally likely to continue to use 
sysvinit so long as I still can, even when I am able to make the switch 
to Jessie.

Thanks,
Brian

[1] <http://www.spinics.net/lists/ceph-users/msg19959.html>

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-07-30 15:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-07-30 13:54 dropping old distros: el6, precise 12.04, debian wheezy? Sage Weil
2015-07-30 14:30 ` [ceph-users] " Jan “Zviratko” Schermer
2015-07-30 14:34   ` Handzik, Joe
     [not found]     ` <BB7431A1-4C47-42EB-8FD9-4F2B5CA46657-VXdhtT5mjnY@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-30 14:42       ` Jan Schermer
2015-07-30 14:32 ` [ceph-users] " Jan Schermer
     [not found] ` <alpine.DEB.2.00.1507300645130.22099-vIokxiIdD2AQNTJnQDzGJqxOck334EZe@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-30 14:29   ` Jan “Zviratko” Schermer
     [not found]     ` <4B37EB35-008A-41DA-85DC-315314373A59-9HAugxcXKGzk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-30 14:39       ` Jon Meacham
2015-07-30 15:58   ` Brian Kroth [this message]
2015-07-31  7:21     ` [ceph-users] " Alexandre DERUMIER
2015-07-31 12:33       ` Sage Weil
2015-07-31 14:18       ` Brian Kroth
2015-07-31  9:48   ` Mariusz Gronczewski
2015-07-31 16:57     ` [ceph-users] " Adam C. Emerson
2015-07-30 19:31 ` Robert LeBlanc

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