From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>
Cc: "ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org"
<ksummit-discuss@lists.linuxfoundation.org>,
riverful.kim@samsung.com, kyungmin.park@samsung.com,
John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>,
Bjorn Andersson <Bjorn.Andersson@sonymobile.com>
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] [CORE TOPIC] Mainline kernel on a cellphone
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2015 14:22:27 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150731122227.GA31877@amd> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150729133244.GH20130@sirena.org.uk>
On Wed 2015-07-29 14:32:44, Mark Brown wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 10:29:02PM +0200, Pavel Machek wrote:
>
> > 4) voice link to modem: Nokia people tell us that ALSA is not suitable
> > interface to modem audio. What is the right interface, then?
>
> ALSA is the right interface for this, this is going to be some
> misunderstanding on their part about how to use it or limitations in
That's what I was arguing, but see https://lkml.org/lkml/2015/3/5/606
.
kai> Our take was that ALSA is not the right interface for cmt_speech. The
kai> cmt_speech interface in the modem is _not_ a PCM interface as modelled
kai> by
kai> ALSA. Specifically:
kai>
kai>- the interface is lossy in both directions
kai>- data is sent in packets, not a stream of samples (could be other
kai>- things
kai> than PCM samples), with timing and meta-data
kai> - timing of uplink is of utmost importance
> the drivers for their particular system (and possibly some unfortunate
> hardware design, it sounds like they may still be bouncing the voice
> call through the AP which isn't the most wonderful idea ever).
> There
Actually, sending data through AP is _very_ good idea from security
perspective. You don't want hacked baseband to eavesdrop on you, do
you?
Best regards,
Pavel
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Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-07-23 10:57 [Ksummit-discuss] [CORE TOPIC] Mainline kernel on a cellphone Pavel Machek
2015-07-23 11:21 ` Linus Walleij
2015-07-23 12:14 ` Pavel Machek
2015-07-23 12:42 ` Steven Rostedt
2015-07-23 15:40 ` Mark Brown
2015-07-28 22:09 ` Tim Bird
2015-07-28 23:07 ` Bjorn Andersson
2015-07-31 16:18 ` Rob Herring
2015-07-31 16:56 ` Bjorn Andersson
2015-08-11 9:34 ` Johannes Berg
2015-07-31 17:25 ` Tim Bird
2015-08-03 15:29 ` John W. Linville
2015-08-03 7:42 ` Linus Walleij
2015-08-03 21:34 ` Rob Herring
2015-08-03 22:36 ` Marcel Holtmann
2015-08-05 8:40 ` Linus Walleij
2015-08-05 8:46 ` Linus Walleij
2015-08-05 9:11 ` Samuel Ortiz
2015-08-05 11:54 ` Pavel Machek
2015-08-05 9:09 ` Samuel Ortiz
2015-08-05 17:19 ` Marcel Holtmann
2015-08-05 16:02 ` Rob Herring
2015-08-05 17:00 ` Marcel Holtmann
2015-08-07 12:40 ` Linus Walleij
2015-07-29 0:45 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2015-07-29 6:12 ` Laurent Pinchart
2015-07-29 7:40 ` Pavel Machek
2015-08-25 18:59 ` Tim Bird
2015-08-26 1:22 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2015-08-26 4:25 ` Sudip Mukherjee
2015-08-26 4:52 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2015-08-26 5:30 ` Laurent Pinchart
2015-08-26 5:33 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2015-08-26 6:15 ` Josh Triplett
2015-08-26 7:23 ` Heiko Stuebner
2015-08-26 8:05 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2015-08-28 8:20 ` Nicolas Ferre
2015-08-26 11:33 ` Mark Brown
2015-08-26 12:56 ` Jason Cooper
2015-08-26 13:35 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-08-26 13:58 ` Sudip Mukherjee
2015-08-26 14:51 ` Jason Cooper
2015-08-26 17:13 ` Sudip Mukherjee
2015-08-26 20:09 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-08-28 7:44 ` Pavel Machek
2015-08-28 8:42 ` Heiko Stuebner
2015-08-29 15:47 ` Sudip Mukherjee
2015-07-29 8:18 ` Heiko Stübner
2015-07-29 0:56 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-07-29 6:43 ` Daniel Vetter
2015-07-29 17:42 ` Tim Bird
2015-07-29 7:14 ` Bintian
2015-07-29 18:07 ` Tim Bird
2015-07-31 1:50 ` Bintian
2015-07-23 20:29 ` Pavel Machek
2015-07-23 20:34 ` Pavel Machek
2015-07-24 4:34 ` NeilBrown
2015-07-24 6:00 ` Tony Lindgren
2015-07-24 22:26 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-07-28 22:03 ` NeilBrown
2015-07-29 0:51 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-07-29 23:23 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-07-29 23:59 ` NeilBrown
2015-07-30 0:57 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-07-31 17:55 ` Mark Brown
2015-08-01 0:08 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2015-07-23 21:00 ` josh
2015-07-23 21:29 ` Pavel Machek
2015-07-29 13:32 ` Mark Brown
2015-07-31 12:22 ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2015-07-31 17:52 ` Mark Brown
2015-07-31 22:03 ` Pavel Machek
2015-08-01 10:55 ` Mark Brown
2015-08-01 19:03 ` Pavel Machek
2015-08-04 17:17 ` Mark Brown
2015-08-03 5:33 ` Tony Lindgren
2015-07-23 13:23 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2015-07-23 21:56 ` Pavel Machek
2015-07-24 1:37 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2015-07-24 4:40 ` Kyungmin Park
2015-07-23 14:48 ` Shuah Khan
2015-07-23 15:08 ` Heiko Stübner
2015-08-04 19:39 ` Pavel Machek
2015-08-05 7:05 ` Bintian
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