From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Brian Kroth Subject: Re: [ceph-users] dropping old distros: el6, precise 12.04, debian wheezy? Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2015 09:18:26 -0500 Message-ID: <20150731141826.GF15736@gmail.com> References: <20150730155812.GE15736@gmail.com> <2085249323.24865068.1438327308865.JavaMail.zimbra@oxygem.tv> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="xaMk4Io5JJdpkLEb" Return-path: Received: from mail-io0-f169.google.com ([209.85.223.169]:34894 "EHLO mail-io0-f169.google.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753627AbbGaOS2 (ORCPT ); Fri, 31 Jul 2015 10:18:28 -0400 Received: by iodd187 with SMTP id d187so86518209iod.2 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2015 07:18:28 -0700 (PDT) Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <2085249323.24865068.1438327308865.JavaMail.zimbra@oxygem.tv> Sender: ceph-devel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: To: Alexandre DERUMIER Cc: Sage Weil , ceph-devel , ceph-users --xaMk4Io5JJdpkLEb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That's good to hear. Thanks for the heads up. We're going to be=20 getting another pile of hardware in the next couple of weeks and I'd=20 prefer to not have to start with Wheezy just to have to move to Jessie a=20 little bit later on. As someone said earlier, OS rollouts take some care= =20 to do in large environments. In the meantime I'll just keep refreshing=20 http://ceph.com/debian/dists/ every couple of days :) Cheers, Brian Alexandre DERUMIER 2015-07-31 09:21: >>>As I still haven't heard or seen about any upstream distros for Debian >>>Jessie (see also [1]), > >Gitbuilder is already done for jessie > >http://gitbuilder.ceph.com/ceph-deb-jessie-x86_64-basic/ > >@Sage : Don't known if something is blocking to release package officially= ? > > > >----- Mail original ----- >De: "Brian Kroth" >=C0: "Sage Weil" >Cc: "ceph-devel" , "ceph-users" >Envoy=E9: Jeudi 30 Juillet 2015 17:58:12 >Objet: Re: [ceph-users] dropping old distros: el6, precise 12.04, debian w= heezy? > >Sage Weil 2015-07-30 06:54: >>As time marches on it becomes increasingly difficult to maintain proper >>builds and packages for older distros. For example, as we make the >>systemd transition, maintaining the kludgey sysvinit and udev support for >>centos6/rhel6 is a pain in the butt and eats up time and energy to >>maintain and test that we could be spending doing more useful work. >> >>"Dropping" them would mean: >> >> - Ongoing development on master (and future versions like infernalis and >>jewel) would not be tested on these distros. >> >> - We would stop building upstream release packages on ceph.com for new >>releases. >> >> - We would probably continue building hammer and firefly packages for >>future bugfix point releases. >> >> - The downstream distros would probably continue to package them, but the >>burden would be on them. For example, if Ubuntu wanted to ship Jewel on >>precise 12.04, they could, but they'd probably need to futz with the >>packaging and/or build environment to make it work. >> >>So... given that, I'd like to gauge user interest in these old distros. >>Specifically, >> >> CentOS6 / RHEL6 >> Ubuntu precise 12.04 >> Debian wheezy >> >>Would anyone miss them? >> >>In particular, dropping these three would mean we could drop sysvinit >>entirely and focus on systemd (and continue maintaining the existing >>upstart files for just a bit longer). That would be a relief. (The >>sysvinit files wouldn't go away in the source tree, but we wouldn't worry >>about packaging and testing them properly.) >> >>Thanks! >>sage > >As I still haven't heard or seen about any upstream distros for Debian >Jessie (see also [1]), I am still running Debian Wheezy and as that is >supposed to be supported for another ~4 years by Debian, it would be >very nice if there were at least stability and security fixes backported >for the upstream ceph package repositories for that platform. > >Additionally, I'll note that I'm personally likely to continue to use >sysvinit so long as I still can, even when I am able to make the switch >to Jessie. > >Thanks, >Brian > >[1] > >_______________________________________________ >ceph-users mailing list >ceph-users@lists.ceph.com >http://lists.ceph.com/listinfo.cgi/ceph-users-ceph.com --xaMk4Io5JJdpkLEb Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlW7g7AACgkQdtkBin+QuSACsgCgy8UodciH5CaKi1VJNetz7Isl IdUAn3xDley3Rubyn1NNOm9/GeW0sIek =m0n+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --xaMk4Io5JJdpkLEb--