From: Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
To: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
Cc: Sebastian Parschauer <s.parschauer@gmx.de>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>, Michael Davidson <md@google.com>,
Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
Jiri Kosina <jkosina@suse.cz>,
"linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
Ubuntu Kernel Team <kernel-team@lists.ubuntu.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] binfmt_elf: Fix bug in loading of PIE binaries
Date: Sat, 8 Aug 2015 14:36:45 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150808213645.GA16845@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGXu5j+W4zBeime=D6ibuZsRw+RCgXJQCOg4V1OaMaEHAdfbZA@mail.gmail.com>
On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 01:34:16PM -0700, Kees Cook wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 12:57 PM, Sebastian Parschauer
> <s.parschauer@gmx.de> wrote:
> > I'm a professional Linux game cheater and the co-maintainer of scanmem.
> > With scanmem we determine the load addresses for PIC and PIE binaries to
> > be able to support static memory cheating with ASLR. At the moment
> > ugtrain is the only universal game trainer able to determine the PIE
> > load address as well and to re-add it to the found match offset from
> > scanmem.
>
> scanmem is such a fun tool. :)
>
> > I'd like to complain a bit about this patch as it makes the address
> > space layout for the executable really ugly by loading unrelated stuff
> > between .text and .rodata.
> >
> > Is it really required on top of 3.13 or 3.16 where Ubuntu has put it?
> >
> > I've also checked v4.2-rc1. There everything is beautiful again.
> > Thank you very much for that!
> >
> > References:
> > https://github.com/scanmem/scanmem/issues/122
> > https://github.com/ugtrain/ugtrain
>
> To summarize the two commits:
>
> This commit fixed a problem where PIE binaries could collide with
> other memory regions, but breaks scanmem:
> https://git.kernel.org/linus/a87938b2e246b81b4fb713edb371a9fa3c5c3c86
> It was sent to stable (and various distros like Ubuntu picked it up),
> since it was (correctly) seen as a bug fix (without realizing it broke
> other programs).
>
> This commit reorganized PIE ASLR to split it from mmap ASLR:
> https://git.kernel.org/linus/a87938b2e246b81b4fb713edb371a9fa3c5c3c86
> This was part of a larger series of patches that did refactoring
> across multiple architectures, and was not sent to stable (since it is
> considered more of a feature than a bug fix).
>
> I believe it should be safe to backport the series, but not every
> kernel team will be willing to do that on their own. As the series has
> been living fine since 4.1, I could be convinced that it should be
> sent to stable. It does fix an ASLR weakness, and it does fix a
> situation where the other commit that got sent to stable breaks
> existing userspace tools. I think both of those factors together
> warrants sending the series to stable.
>
> Greg, would you be willing to take these into stable?
>
> fbbc400f3924ce095b466c776dc294727ec0a202
> 82168140bc4cec7ec9bad39705518541149ff8b7
> dd04cff1dceab18226853b555cf07914648a235f
> 1f0569df0b0285e7ec2432d804a4921b06a61618
> ed6322746afb74c2509e2f3a6464182793b16eb9
> 8e89a356feb6f196824a72101861d931a97ac2d2
> 2b68f6caeac271620cd2f9362aeaed360e317df0
> c6f5b001e65cdac592b65a08c5d2dd179cfba568
> d1fd836dcf00d2028c700c7e44d2c23404062c90
> 204db6ed17743000691d930368a5abd6ea541c58
Given that 4.0-stable is now end-of-life, and these are all in 4.1, I'm
not going to worry about these anymore, thanks.
greg k-h
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-08-08 21:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-07-16 19:57 [PATCH] binfmt_elf: Fix bug in loading of PIE binaries Sebastian Parschauer
2015-07-16 20:34 ` Kees Cook
2015-07-19 20:28 ` Sebastian Parschauer
2015-08-08 21:36 ` Greg KH [this message]
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2015-04-13 22:49 Michael Davidson
2015-05-19 15:01 ` James Hogan
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