From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
To: Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>
Cc: rientjes@google.com, hannes@cmpxchg.org, linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [REPOST] [PATCH 2/2] mm,oom: Reverse the order of setting TIF_MEMDIE and sending SIGKILL.
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 17:20:00 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150825152000.GH6285@dhcp22.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201508252337.IHC12433.OFHFFOtQOSLJVM@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>
On Tue 25-08-15 23:37:27, Tetsuo Handa wrote:
> Michal Hocko wrote:
> > > > The code would be easier then and the race window much smaller. If we
> > > > really needed to prevent from preemption then preempt_{enable,disable}
> > > > aournd the whole task_lock region + do_send_sig_info would be still
> > > > easier to follow than re-taking task_lock.
> > >
> > > What's wrong with re-taking task_lock? It seems to me that re-taking
> > > task_lock is more straightforward and easier to follow.
> >
> > I dunno it looks more awkward to me. You have to re-check the victim->mm
> > after retaking the lock because situation might have changed while the
> > lock was dropped. If the mark_oom_victim & do_send_sig_info are in the
> > same preempt region then nothing like that is needed. But this is
> > probably a matter of taste. I find the above more readable but let's see
> > what others think.
>
> Disabling preemption does not guarantee that the race window is small enough.
>
> If we set TIF_MEMDIE before sending SIGKILL, long interrupts (an extreme
> example is SysRq-t from keyboard which would last many seconds) can step
> between. We will spend some percent (the worst case is 100 percent) of memory
> reserves for allocations which are not needed for termination.
I wouldn't be worried about sysrq+t because that requires the
administrator. And IRQs shouldn't take too long normally. But I guess
you are right that this will be inherently less fragile long term. All
other callers of mark_oom_victim except for lowmem_scan are safe. Could
you update the lmk as well please?
--
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-08-25 15:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-08-23 7:19 [REPOST] [PATCH 2/2] mm,oom: Reverse the order of setting TIF_MEMDIE and sending SIGKILL Tetsuo Handa
2015-08-24 9:47 ` Michal Hocko
2015-08-25 12:06 ` Tetsuo Handa
2015-08-25 14:17 ` Michal Hocko
2015-08-25 14:37 ` Tetsuo Handa
2015-08-25 15:20 ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2015-08-26 14:12 ` Michal Hocko
2015-08-26 14:28 ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-08-27 8:38 ` Michal Hocko
2015-08-26 15:03 ` Tetsuo Handa
2015-08-27 8:40 ` Michal Hocko
2015-08-27 11:11 ` Tetsuo Handa
2015-08-27 11:34 ` Michal Hocko
2015-08-27 14:03 ` Tetsuo Handa
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