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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Davidlohr Bueso <dave@stgolabs.net>,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Waiman Long <Waiman.Long@hp.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [4.2, Regression] Queued spinlocks cause major XFS performance regression
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2015 12:05:51 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150908100551.GC3644@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFzGY3iHUwoQB1He4zag7CrF-_OdpHcpUTYvGC48zrSSYA@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Sep 07, 2015 at 01:45:18PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 6, 2015 at 11:57 PM, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> >
> > Just to continue the argument for arguments sake, the function is named
> > 'virt' (not paravirt) and tests the HYPERVISOR CPUID bit. How is that
> > not appropriately named?
> 
> Well, I think right now one issue is that you can't avoid it, even
> when you want pure "raw hardware" spinlocks.

The host could choose not to set the HYPERVISOR CPUID bit, but yes point
taken, and I've got a patch to make it conditional on a CONFIG thingy.

> I really think it should at the very least be inside CONFIG_PARAVIRT.
> Because it *is* about helping the hypervisor, so really is about
> paravirtualization.

Ah, so I think the confusion is in what we consider paravirt to mean. My
definition of paravirt is that its a form of virtualization where the
guest and host communicate over a software channel.

In this case; the guest does not talk to the host, there is no
hypercall, no host support required. Therefore this is not paravirt.

Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paravirtualization

Seems to agree with such a definition.

In any case, no strong feelings either way; the current patch that I've
got uses CONFIG_HYPERVISOR_GUEST, but I'm happy to change that to
CONFIG_PARAVIRT.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-09-08 10:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-09-04  5:48 [4.2, Regression] Queued spinlocks cause major XFS performance regression Dave Chinner
2015-09-04  6:39 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-09-04  7:11   ` Dave Chinner
2015-09-04  7:31     ` Juergen Gross
2015-09-04  7:55     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-04  8:29     ` Dave Chinner
2015-09-04 15:05       ` Linus Torvalds
2015-09-04 15:14         ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-04 15:21           ` Linus Torvalds
2015-09-04 15:30             ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-04 15:54               ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-10  2:06                 ` Waiman Long
2015-09-04 15:58               ` Linus Torvalds
2015-09-05 17:45                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-04 15:25           ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-06 23:32             ` Dave Chinner
2015-09-07  0:05             ` Davidlohr Bueso
2015-09-07  6:57               ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-07 20:45                 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-09-08  6:37                   ` Davidlohr Bueso
2015-09-08 10:05                   ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2015-09-08 17:45                     ` Linus Torvalds
2015-09-13 10:55             ` [tip:locking/core] locking/qspinlock/x86: Fix performance regression under unaccelerated VMs tip-bot for Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-04  7:39   ` [4.2, Regression] Queued spinlocks cause major XFS performance regression Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-04  8:12     ` Dave Chinner
2015-09-04 11:32       ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-04 22:03         ` Dave Chinner
2015-09-06 23:47         ` Dave Chinner
2015-09-10  2:09           ` Waiman Long
     [not found]         ` <CAC=cRTOraeOeu3Z8C1qx6w=GMSzD_4VevrEzn0mMhrqy=7n3wQ@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]           ` <56094F05.4090809@hpe.com>
2015-09-29  0:47             ` huang ying
2015-09-29  2:57               ` Waiman Long
2015-09-10  2:01 ` Waiman Long

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