From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>
Cc: Austin S Hemmelgarn <ahferroin7@gmail.com>,
sedat.dilek@gmail.com, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Baoquan He <bhe@redhat.com>, Denys Vlasenko <dvlasenk@redhat.com>,
Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>, Thomas Graf <tgraf@suug.ch>,
the arch/x86 maintainers <x86@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [llvmlinux] percpu | bitmap issue? (Cannot boot on bare metal due to a kernel NULL pointer dereference)
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2015 08:11:02 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150915061102.GA20229@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.11.1509141325460.4192@east.gentwo.org>
* Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 14 Sep 2015, Austin S Hemmelgarn wrote:
>
> >I can comment at least a little about the -Os aspect (although not I'm no
> >expert on this in particular). In general, for _most_ use cases, a kernel
> >compiled with CONFIG_CC_OPTIMIZE_FOR_SIZE will run slower than one compiled
> >without it. On rare occasion though, it may actually run faster, the only
> >cases I've seen where this happens are specialized uses that are very memory
> >pressure dependent and run almost entirely in userspace with almost no
> >syscalls (for example math related stuff operating on _very, very big_ (as in,
> >>1 trillion elements) multidimensional matrices, with complex memory
> >constraints), and even then it's usually a miniscule improvement in
> >performance (generally less than 1%, which can of course be significant
> >depending on how long it takes before the improvement).
>
> Cache footprint depends on size which has a significant impact on
> performance. In our experience the kernel (and any other code) is
> generally faster if optimized for size.
Unfortunately, GCC overdoes -Os generating outright silly code, which makes the
result generally slower - despite the reduced instruction count and reduced cache
footprint.
We've recently applied patches to the x86 tree that give us a good chunk of the
size savings that -Os brings:
52648e83c9a6 x86: Pack loops tightly as well
be6cb02779ca x86: Align jump targets to 1-byte boundaries
these two shave about 5% off from the typical distro kernel's size. That's still
way off the 15%-20% that -Os can muster, but another ~10% are possible by not
aligning functions to byte boundaries (instead of the default 16 bytes).
So about 70% of the -Os size win is from simple and pure alignment relaxation, not
from any deeper compiler optimizations.
So LLVM could emulate most of the good effects of -Os by only compressing the
various alignment parameters - and this would be a pretty safe optimization as
well.
Thanks,
Ingo
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Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-09-06 17:45 [llvmlinux] percpu | bitmap issue? (Cannot boot on bare metal due to a kernel NULL pointer dereference) Sedat Dilek
2015-09-07 5:58 ` Sedat Dilek
[not found] ` <CA+icZUUs3KEydWRgu_Y+YqS4TcCNp2DUw3Y+KfBzX7aPg_kzLw@mail.gmail.com>
2015-09-09 2:29 ` Baoquan He
2015-09-09 2:51 ` Sedat Dilek
2015-09-09 3:04 ` Sedat Dilek
2015-09-09 3:14 ` Sedat Dilek
2015-09-09 3:25 ` Baoquan He
2015-09-09 3:46 ` Sedat Dilek
2015-09-09 6:56 ` Sedat Dilek
2015-09-09 7:14 ` Baoquan He
2015-09-09 7:41 ` Sedat Dilek
2015-09-09 10:05 ` Sedat Dilek
2015-09-09 12:54 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-12 21:22 ` Sedat Dilek
2015-09-13 2:33 ` Sedat Dilek
2015-09-14 7:12 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-14 7:35 ` Sedat Dilek
2015-09-14 7:57 ` Sedat Dilek
2015-09-14 8:54 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-09-14 9:35 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-09-14 9:55 ` Sedat Dilek
2015-09-14 9:59 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-09-14 10:22 ` Sedat Dilek
2015-09-14 12:47 ` Ingo Molnar
2015-09-14 7:49 ` Sedat Dilek
2015-09-14 17:50 ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2015-09-14 18:27 ` Christoph Lameter
2015-09-14 18:38 ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2015-09-15 6:11 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
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