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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>
Cc: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org >> Linux Kernel Mailing List"
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, KVM list <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	Paul McKenney <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [4.2] commit d59cfc09c32 (sched, cgroup: replace signal_struct->group_rwsem with a global percpu_rwsem) causes regression for libvirt/kvm
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2015 15:05:50 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150915130550.GC16853@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55F8097A.7000206@de.ibm.com>

On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 02:05:14PM +0200, Christian Borntraeger wrote:
> Tejun,
> 
> 
> commit d59cfc09c32a2ae31f1c3bc2983a0cd79afb3f14 (sched, cgroup: replace 
> signal_struct->group_rwsem with a global percpu_rwsem) causes some noticably
> hickups when starting several kvm guests (which libvirt will move into cgroups
> - each vcpu thread and each i/o thread)
> When you now start lots of guests in parallel on a bigger system (32CPUs with
> 2way smt in my case) the system is so busy that systemd runs into several timeouts
> like "Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did
> not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply
> timeout expired, or the network connection was broken."
> 
> The problem seems to be that the newly used percpu_rwsem does a
> rcu_synchronize_sched_expedited for all write downs/ups.

Can you try:

git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/paulmck/linux-rcu.git dev.2015.09.11ab

those include Oleg's rework of the percpu rwsem which should hopefully
improve things somewhat.

But yes, pounding a global lock on a big machine will always suck.

  reply	other threads:[~2015-09-15 13:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-09-15 12:05 [4.2] commit d59cfc09c32 (sched, cgroup: replace signal_struct->group_rwsem with a global percpu_rwsem) causes regression for libvirt/kvm Christian Borntraeger
2015-09-15 13:05 ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2015-09-15 13:36   ` Christian Borntraeger
2015-09-15 13:53     ` Tejun Heo
2015-09-15 16:42     ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-09-15 17:38       ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-09-16  8:32         ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-09-16  8:57           ` Christian Borntraeger
2015-09-16  9:12             ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-09-16 12:22               ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-09-16 12:35                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-09-16 12:43                   ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-09-16 12:56                 ` Christian Borntraeger
2015-09-16 14:16                 ` Tejun Heo
2015-09-16 14:19                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-09-15 21:11       ` Christian Borntraeger
2015-09-15 21:26         ` Tejun Heo
2015-09-15 21:38           ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-09-15 22:28             ` Tejun Heo
2015-09-15 23:38               ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-09-16  1:24                 ` Tejun Heo
2015-09-16  4:35                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-09-16 11:06                     ` Tejun Heo
2015-09-16  7:44                   ` Christian Borntraeger
2015-09-16 10:58                     ` Christian Borntraeger
2015-09-16 11:03                       ` Tejun Heo
2015-09-16 11:50                         ` Christian Borntraeger
2015-09-16 15:55 ` [PATCH cgroup/for-4.3-fixes 1/2] Revert "cgroup: simplify threadgroup locking" Tejun Heo
2015-09-16 15:56   ` [PATCH cgroup/for-4.3-fixes 2/2] Revert "sched, cgroup: replace signal_struct->group_rwsem with a global percpu_rwsem" Tejun Heo
2015-09-16 17:00   ` [PATCH cgroup/for-4.3-fixes 1/2] Revert "cgroup: simplify threadgroup locking" Oleg Nesterov
2015-09-16 18:45   ` Christian Borntraeger

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