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From: Kevin O'Connor <kevin@koconnor.net>
To: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>
Cc: Drew <drjones@redhat.com>, "Stefan Hajnoczi" <stefanha@gmail.com>,
	"QEMU Developers" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"Gerd Hoffmann" <kraxel@redhat.com>,
	"Marc Marí" <markmb@redhat.com>, Laszlo <lersek@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 0/5] fw_cfg DMA interface
Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2015 19:43:59 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150918234359.GA30932@morn.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFEAcA9609Z5MF-pEJO5+TBV6aLGs+V6Nj2C_t7h88k49yS8Pg@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 11:47:52PM +0100, Peter Maydell wrote:
> On 18 September 2015 at 19:25, Kevin O'Connor <kevin@koconnor.net> wrote:
> > +Additionaly, if the DMA interface is available then a read to the DMA
> > +Address will return 0x51454d5520434647 ("QEMU CFG" in big-endian
> > +format).
> > +
> 
> I don't think I understand this. If you know the DMA Address
> port or register exists, then you know (by definition) that
> the DMA interface is available. If you don't know that the
> DMA interface is available then you can't read from the DMA
> Address port or register because it might not exist and could
> therefore cause you to blow up.
> 
> If you want to be able to tell without doing the "use the
> old-style interface to query the version" thing, then you
> need to look in the ACPI or device tree tables (and those
> tables need to be such that you can tell the difference,
> which is the case for at least device tree; haven't checked
> ACPI.)

Hi Peter,

On x86 the firmware can't use acpi (nor device tree) to find fw_cfg
because fw_cfg is what is used to transfer acpi to the firmware.  So,
the firmware just hard codes the address.  As a "sanity check", the
firmware currently checks for a signature before using fw_cfg to
verify everything is working correctly (outw(0x0000, 0x510);
inb(0x511) == 'Q'; inb(0x511) == 'E'; ...).  A check for the new dma
interface involves an additional query (outw(0x0001, 0x510);
inb(0x511) == 3; ...).

I'm proposing that a future firmware (that didn't need to support old
versions of QEMU) could use a simpler sanity check instead (inl(0x514)
== "QEMU"; inl(0x518) == " CFG").

Granted, both the old check and the new proposed check would not be
needed on platforms that have a device tree transmitted separately
from fw_cfg.  Though, even on those platforms, there is no harm in
defining what happens on a read event.

-Kevin

  reply	other threads:[~2015-09-18 23:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-09-18  8:58 QEMU fw_cfg DMA interface Marc Marí
2015-09-18  8:58 ` [Qemu-devel] " Marc Marí
2015-09-18  8:58 ` Marc Marí
2015-09-18  8:58 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 0/5] " Marc Marí
2015-09-18  8:58   ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 1/5] fw_cfg: document fw_cfg_modify_iXX() update functions Marc Marí
2015-09-18  8:58   ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 2/5] fw_cfg DMA interface documentation Marc Marí
2015-09-18 15:15     ` Peter Maydell
2015-09-18  8:58   ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 3/5] Implement fw_cfg DMA interface Marc Marí
2015-09-18 15:31     ` Peter Maydell
2015-09-18 18:29     ` Kevin O'Connor
2015-09-18  8:58   ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 4/5] Enable fw_cfg DMA interface for ARM Marc Marí
2015-09-18 15:15     ` Peter Maydell
2015-09-18 19:33     ` Laszlo Ersek
2015-09-18 20:16     ` Laszlo Ersek
2015-09-18 20:24       ` Marc Marí
2015-09-18 23:10         ` Laszlo Ersek
2015-09-19 13:09           ` Marc Marí
2015-10-22 21:22           ` Gabriel L. Somlo
2015-10-26 10:48             ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-10-26 12:49               ` Gabriel L. Somlo
2015-10-26 13:38                 ` Laszlo Ersek
2015-10-26 14:21                   ` Gabriel L. Somlo
2015-10-27 11:11                   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2015-10-27 12:43                     ` Laszlo Ersek
2015-10-28  1:12                       ` Gabriel L. Somlo
2015-10-28 10:42                         ` Laszlo Ersek
2015-09-18  8:58   ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 5/5] Enable fw_cfg DMA interface for x86 Marc Marí
2015-09-18 10:58     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2015-09-18 15:12       ` Peter Maydell
2015-09-18 18:25   ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 0/5] fw_cfg DMA interface Kevin O'Connor
2015-09-18 19:14     ` Marc Marí
2015-09-18 22:47     ` Peter Maydell
2015-09-18 23:43       ` Kevin O'Connor [this message]
2015-09-19  9:48         ` Peter Maydell
2015-09-19 15:15           ` Kevin O'Connor
2015-09-18  8:59 ` [PATCH v3] QEMU fw_cfg DMA interface documentation Marc Marí

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