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From: Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>
To: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@kernel.org,
	jiangshanlai@gmail.com, dipankar@in.ibm.com,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com,
	tglx@linutronix.de, peterz@infradead.org, rostedt@goodmis.org,
	dhowells@redhat.com, edumazet@google.com, dvhart@linux.intel.com,
	fweisbec@gmail.com, oleg@redhat.com, bobby.prani@gmail.com,
	Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH tip/core/rcu 04/13] rcu: Don't disable preemption for Tiny and Tree RCU readers
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2015 10:46:31 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151006174631.GB10272@cloud> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20151006174204.GL3910@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

On Tue, Oct 06, 2015 at 10:42:04AM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 06, 2015 at 10:16:30AM -0700, Josh Triplett wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 06, 2015 at 10:01:01AM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > > On Tue, Oct 06, 2015 at 09:44:45AM -0700, Josh Triplett wrote:
> > > > On Tue, Oct 06, 2015 at 09:13:39AM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > > > > From: Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>
> > > > > 
> > > > > Because preempt_disable() maps to barrier() for non-debug builds,
> > > > > it forces the compiler to spill and reload registers.  Because Tree
> > > > > RCU and Tiny RCU now only appear in CONFIG_PREEMPT=n builds, these
> > > > > barrier() instances generate needless extra code for each instance of
> > > > > rcu_read_lock() and rcu_read_unlock().  This extra code slows down Tree
> > > > > RCU and bloats Tiny RCU.
> > > > > 
> > > > > This commit therefore removes the preempt_disable() and preempt_enable()
> > > > > from the non-preemptible implementations of __rcu_read_lock() and
> > > > > __rcu_read_unlock(), respectively.  However, for debug purposes,
> > > > > preempt_disable() and preempt_enable() are still invoked if
> > > > > CONFIG_PREEMPT_COUNT=y, because this allows detection of sleeping inside
> > > > > atomic sections in non-preemptible kernels.
> > > > > 
> > > > > This is based on an earlier patch by Paul E. McKenney, fixing
> > > > > a bug encountered in kernels built with CONFIG_PREEMPT=n and
> > > > > CONFIG_PREEMPT_COUNT=y.
> > > > 
> > > > This also adds explicit barrier() calls to several internal RCU
> > > > functions, but the commit message doesn't explain those at all.
> > > 
> > > To compensate for them being removed from rcu_read_lock() and
> > > rcu_read_unlock(), but yes, I will update.
> > 
> > That much seemed clear from the comments, but that doesn't explain *why*
> > those functions need barriers of their own even though rcu_read_lock()
> > and rcu_read_unlock() don't.
> 
> Ah.  The reason is that Tiny RCU and Tree RCU (the !PREEMPT ones) act
> by implicitly extending (and, if need be, merging) the RCU read-side
> critical sections to include all the code between successive quiescent
> states, for example, all the code between a pair of calls to schedule().
> 
> Therefore, there need to be barrier() calls in the quiescent-state
> functions.  Some could be argued to be implicitly present due to
> translation-unit boundaries, but paranoia and all that.
> 
> Would adding that sort of explanation help?

Yes, it would.

  reply	other threads:[~2015-10-06 17:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-10-06 16:13 [PATCH tip/core/rcu 0/13] Miscellaneous fixes for 4.4 Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 16:13 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 01/13] sched: Export sched_setscheduler_nocheck Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 16:13   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 02/13] rcu: Use rcu_callback_t in call_rcu*() and friends Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 16:13   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 03/13] rcu: Use call_rcu_func_t to replace explicit type equivalents Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 16:13   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 04/13] rcu: Don't disable preemption for Tiny and Tree RCU readers Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 16:20     ` [Kernel networking modules.] OSI levels 2 & 3, Assistance - If anyone knows anyone in the US. North West region John D Allen, Leveridge Systems INC
2015-10-06 16:44     ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 04/13] rcu: Don't disable preemption for Tiny and Tree RCU readers Josh Triplett
2015-10-06 17:01       ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 17:16         ` Josh Triplett
2015-10-06 17:42           ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 17:46             ` Josh Triplett [this message]
2015-10-06 20:05             ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-06 20:18               ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 20:52                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-06 21:05                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-07  7:19                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-06 16:13   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 05/13] rcu: Eliminate panic when silly boot-time fanout specified Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 16:13   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 06/13] rcu: Add online/offline info to stall warning message Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 17:15     ` Josh Triplett
2015-10-06 16:13   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 07/13] rcu: Move preemption disabling out of __srcu_read_lock() Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 17:18     ` Josh Triplett
2015-10-06 17:36       ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 17:43         ` Josh Triplett
2015-10-06 18:07           ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 20:07     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-06 20:19       ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 20:32         ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-06 21:03           ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-07  7:20             ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-07 14:18               ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 16:13   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 08/13] rcu: Finish folding ->fqs_state into ->gp_state Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 16:13   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 09/13] rcu: Correct comment for values of ->gp_state field Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 16:13   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 10/13] rcu: Add rcu_pointer_handoff() Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 17:21     ` Josh Triplett
2015-10-06 17:31       ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 17:36         ` Josh Triplett
2015-10-06 20:27     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-06 21:02       ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-07  7:22         ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-07 14:20           ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 16:13   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 11/13] rculist: Make list_entry_rcu() use lockless_dereference() Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-26  8:45     ` Ingo Molnar
2015-10-26 14:55       ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-26 18:02         ` Ingo Molnar
2015-10-27  3:37         ` Linus Torvalds
2015-10-27  5:19           ` Tejun Heo
2015-10-27  5:33             ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-28  8:33             ` Ingo Molnar
2015-10-28 20:35               ` Patrick Marlier
2015-10-29  0:00                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-29  2:13                   ` Tejun Heo
2015-10-28 20:58             ` [tip:core/rcu] fs/writeback, rcu: Don't use list_entry_rcu() for pointer offsetting in bdi_split_work_to_wbs() tip-bot for Tejun Heo
2015-10-27  5:32           ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 11/13] rculist: Make list_entry_rcu() use lockless_dereference() Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 16:13   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 12/13] rcu: Remove deprecated rcu_lockdep_assert() Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 16:13   ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 13/13] rculist: Use WRITE_ONCE() when deleting from reader-visible list Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-06 17:23 ` [PATCH tip/core/rcu 0/13] Miscellaneous fixes for 4.4 Josh Triplett
2015-10-06 17:38   ` Paul E. McKenney

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