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From: Mike Snitzer <snitzer@redhat.com>
To: Ming Lei <tom.leiming@gmail.com>
Cc: Mikulas Patocka <mpatocka@redhat.com>,
	Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	Kent Overstreet <kent.overstreet@gmail.com>,
	dm-devel@redhat.com,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Alasdair G. Kergon" <agk@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] block: flush queued bios when the process blocks
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2015 04:06:10 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151015080610.GA25536@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACVXFVPgvKEJo1dPigk303=GGVc3fJnuEk+QP+VEf=xa_Lz+vA@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Oct 14 2015 at 11:27pm -0400,
Ming Lei <tom.leiming@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sat, Oct 10, 2015 at 3:52 AM, Mike Snitzer <snitzer@redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> > Turns out that this change:
> > http://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/snitzer/linux.git/commit/?h=wip&id=2639638c77768a86216be456c2764e32a2bcd841
> >
> > needed to be reverted with:
> > http://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/snitzer/linux.git/commit/?h=wip&id=ad3ccd760da7c05b90775372f9b39dc2964086fe
> >
> > Because nested plugs caused generic_make_request()'s onstack bio_list to
> > go out of scope (blk_finish_plug() wouldn't actually flush the list
> > within generic_make_request because XFS already added an outermost
> > plug).
> 
> Looks you should have defined bio_list in plug as
> 
>                'struct bio_list bio_list'
> 
> instead of one pointer.

I realized that and fixed it (see commit ad3ccd760da7c05b90 referenced
above that does exactly that).  That wasn't the problem.

> >
> > But even after fixing that I then hit issues with these changes now
> > resulting in imperfect 'in_generic_make_request' accounting that happens
> > lazily once the outermost plug completes blk_finish_plug.  manifested as
> > dm-bufio.c:dm_bufio_prefetch's BUG_ON(dm_bufio_in_request()); hitting.
> 
> Looks this problem should be related with above 'bio_list' definition too.

No, as I explained it was due to the nested plug:

> >
> > Basically using the blk-core's onstack plugging isn't workable for
> > fixing this deadlock and we're back to having to seriously consider
> > this (with its additional hook in the scheduler)

To elaborate, for the code in DM (and other subsystems like bcache) that
rely on accurate accounting of whether we're actively _in_
generic_make_request: using plug to store/manage the bio_list isn't
workable because nested plugs change the lifetime of when the bio_list
is processed (as I implemented it -- which was to respect nested plugs).
I could've forced the issue by making the bio_list get processed
regardless of nesting but that would've made the onstack plugging much
more convoluted (duality between nested vs not just for bio_list's
benefit and for what gain?  Simply to avoid an extra conditional
immediately in the scheduler?  That conditional was still added anyway
but just as part of blk_needs_flush_plug so in the end there wasn't any
benefit!).

Hopefully my middle-of-the-night reply is coherent and helped to clarify
my position that (ab)using blk_plug for the bio_list management is
_really_ awkward. ;)

Thanks,
Mike

  reply	other threads:[~2015-10-15  8:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-05-27 15:03 [PATCH] block: flush queued bios when the process blocks Mikulas Patocka
2014-05-27 15:08 ` Jens Axboe
2014-05-27 15:23   ` Mikulas Patocka
2014-05-27 15:42     ` Jens Axboe
2014-05-27 16:26       ` Mikulas Patocka
2014-05-27 17:33         ` Mike Snitzer
2014-05-27 19:56           ` Kent Overstreet
2015-10-05 19:50             ` Mike Snitzer
2014-05-27 17:42         ` [PATCH] " Jens Axboe
2014-05-27 18:14           ` [dm-devel] " Christoph Hellwig
2014-05-27 19:59             ` Kent Overstreet
2014-05-27 19:56           ` Mikulas Patocka
2014-05-27 20:06             ` Kent Overstreet
2014-05-29 23:52           ` Mikulas Patocka
2015-10-05 20:59             ` Mike Snitzer
2015-10-06 13:28               ` Mikulas Patocka
2015-10-06 13:47                 ` Mike Snitzer
2015-10-06 14:10                   ` Mikulas Patocka
2015-10-06 14:26                   ` Mikulas Patocka
2015-10-06 18:17               ` [dm-devel] " Mikulas Patocka
2015-10-06 18:50                 ` Mike Snitzer
2015-10-06 20:16                   ` [PATCH v2] " Mike Snitzer
2015-10-06 20:26                     ` Mike Snitzer
2015-10-08 15:04                     ` Mikulas Patocka
2015-10-08 15:08                       ` Mike Snitzer
2015-10-09 19:52                         ` Mike Snitzer
2015-10-09 19:59                           ` Mike Snitzer
2015-10-14 20:47                             ` [PATCH v3 for-4.4] block: flush queued bios when process blocks to avoid deadlock Mike Snitzer
2015-10-14 21:44                               ` Jeff Moyer
2015-10-17 16:04                               ` Ming Lei
2015-10-20 19:57                                 ` Mike Snitzer
2015-10-20 20:03                                 ` Mikulas Patocka
2015-10-21 16:38                                   ` Ming Lei
2015-10-21 21:49                                     ` Mikulas Patocka
2015-10-22  1:53                                       ` Ming Lei
2015-10-15  3:27                           ` [PATCH v2] block: flush queued bios when the process blocks Ming Lei
2015-10-15  8:06                             ` Mike Snitzer [this message]
2015-10-16  3:08                               ` Ming Lei
2015-10-16 15:29                                 ` Mike Snitzer
2015-10-17 15:54                                   ` Ming Lei
2015-10-17 15:54                                     ` Ming Lei
2015-10-09 11:58                     ` kbuild test robot
2014-05-27 17:59   ` [PATCH] " Kent Overstreet

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