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From: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: Jeff Layton <jeff.layton@primarydata.com>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	Benjamin Coddington <bcodding@redhat.com>,
	Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>,
	Linux Containers <containers@lists.linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] locks: Allow disabling mandatory locking at compile time
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2015 20:33:11 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151112013311.GA32064@fieldses.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <876118ruiu.fsf@x220.int.ebiederm.org>

On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 05:22:33PM -0600, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> Jeff Layton <jeff.layton@primarydata.com> writes:
> 
> > On Wed, 11 Nov 2015 15:26:07 -0500
> > "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org> wrote:
> >
> >> On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 11:49:20AM -0600, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> >> > 
> >> > Mandatory locking appears to be almost unused and buggy and there
> >> > appears no real interest in doing anything with it.  Since effectively
> >> > no one uses the code and since the code is buggy let's allow it to be
> >> > disabled at compile time.  I would just suggest removing the code but
> >> > undoubtedly that will break some piece of userspace code somewhere.
> >> > 
> >> > For the distributions that don't care about this piece of code
> >> > this gives a nice starting point to make mandatory locking go away.
> >> > 
> >> > Cc: Benjamin Coddington <bcodding@redhat.com>
> >> > Cc: Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>
> >> > Cc: Jeff Layton <jeff.layton@primarydata.com>
> >> > Cc: J. Bruce Fields <bfields@fieldses.org>
> >> > Signed-off-by: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
> >> > ---
> >> > 
> >> > A piece of userspace software having problematic interactions with
> >> > mandatory locking recently came up as an issue
> >> 
> >> Is there any more interesting story there?
> 
> Only that I overlooked them when implementing user namespace support for
> mounting filesystems so it is currently possible to without privilege to
> mount tmpfs with mandatory locking enabled and pass a file descriptor to
> a daemon that was not expecting them.  Causing nice denial of service
> attacks.
> 
> So I need to decide what to do with mandatory locking in user
> namespaces.
> 
> As the consensus of this thread is that users of mandatory locking are
> as rare as hen's teeth I can just not allow mandatory locking if you
> something is being mounted just user namespace permissions.

Sounds like a plan.  If nobody notices this limitation then that's
further evidence that we might be able to get away with deprecating it
eventually.

(Well, I wouldn't be surprised if there's some test suite somewhere that
includes a simple test for mandatory lock enforcement.  So, any user
other than that....)

--b.

  reply	other threads:[~2015-11-12  1:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-11-11 17:49 [RFC][PATCH] locks: Allow disabling mandatory locking at compile time Eric W. Biederman
2015-11-11 17:49 ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-11-11 20:26 ` J. Bruce Fields
2015-11-11 22:44   ` Jeff Layton
2015-11-11 22:46     ` Jeremy Allison
2015-11-11 23:22     ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-11-12  1:33       ` J. Bruce Fields [this message]
     [not found]         ` <20151112013311.GA32064-uC3wQj2KruNg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-12  1:55           ` Jeff Layton
     [not found]       ` <876118ruiu.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-12  1:33         ` J. Bruce Fields
2015-11-16 14:58         ` Jeff Layton
2015-11-16 14:58           ` Jeff Layton
     [not found]           ` <20151116095841.0f620a5c-9yPaYZwiELC+kQycOl6kW4xkIHaj4LzF@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-16 21:34             ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-11-16 21:34           ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]     ` <20151111174401.5778153c-9yPaYZwiELC+kQycOl6kW4xkIHaj4LzF@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-11 22:46       ` Jeremy Allison via Containers
2015-11-11 23:22       ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]   ` <20151111202607.GD29410-uC3wQj2KruNg9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-11 22:44     ` Jeff Layton
     [not found] ` <876118v333.fsf-JOvCrm2gF+uungPnsOpG7nhyD016LWXt@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-11 20:26   ` J. Bruce Fields

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