From: Fam Zheng <famz@redhat.com>
To: John Snow <jsnow@redhat.com>
Cc: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>,
Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy <vsementsov@virtuozzo.com>,
Alberto Garcia <berto@igalia.com>,
qemu-block@nongnu.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>,
Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>,
Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
Max Reitz <mreitz@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Closing Bitmaps (Was: Re: [PATCH v7 03/24] block: Release dirty bitmaps in bdrv_close())
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2015 10:29:41 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151118022941.GA9000@ad.usersys.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <564B5E4B.4000406@redhat.com>
On Tue, 11/17 12:05, John Snow wrote:
> Still the subject of debate on-list, but the thought is roughly this:
Thanks for summerizing this!
>
> Bitmaps will be able to flush-to-file on close. (If they have no
> persistence data, it's a no-op (maybe.)) This might mean being flushed
> to their own BDS -- the one they are describing -- as a qcow2 extension.
> Or, it could be to an arbitrary new standalone file format designed for
> the sole purpose of containing bitmap data.
>
> The discussion hasn't progressed beyond "Max and Kevin do not think
> storing arbitrary bitmaps in .qcow2 files is a good idea." The logical
> conclusion is "We need a new standalone format, then" but we haven't
> decided what that format will look like or how it will be used.
I second that. While storing dirty bitmap in the image itself sounds fine, it
is unlikely the best way for any other formats. Given that we will have a
standalone format for raw or other formats, it's probably not worth to extend
qcow2 specifically.
>
> Then, Through CLI arguments or QMP arguments, you can modify the
> persistence attributes of bitmaps -- choosing where to store them.
> Bitmaps for qcow2 nodes can be stored in their own node, bitmaps
> describing raw files will need to be stored in an external file.
>
> (Is it possible to create a block driver that doesn't implement
> read/write primitives, and only implements theoretical bitmap load/save
> primitives? We could create a block driver for a standalone bitmap
> container in this way...)
What about implementing it as a filter? It would work similar to blkdebug, with
.bdrv_co_writev to mark the in memory dirty bits (or even manage a
sophisticated cache to support large images efficiently), and .bdrv_close
to flush data to disk.
But that depends on the dynamic reconfigiration feature of block nodes, for
hot add/remove of dirty bitmap to work.
Fam
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-11-18 2:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-11-09 22:39 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 for-2.6 00/24] block: Rework bdrv_close_all() Max Reitz
2015-11-09 22:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 01/24] blockdev: Add missing bdrv_unref() in drive-backup Max Reitz
2015-11-12 6:14 ` Fam Zheng
2015-11-18 15:24 ` Kevin Wolf
2015-11-09 22:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 02/24] blockjob: Call bdrv_unref() on creation error Max Reitz
2015-11-12 6:16 ` Fam Zheng
2015-11-18 15:24 ` Kevin Wolf
2015-11-09 22:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 03/24] block: Release dirty bitmaps in bdrv_close() Max Reitz
2015-11-11 21:08 ` John Snow
2015-11-12 6:23 ` Fam Zheng
2015-11-13 22:49 ` John Snow
2015-11-16 1:27 ` Fam Zheng
2015-11-16 17:07 ` John Snow
2015-11-17 4:22 ` Fam Zheng
2015-11-17 17:05 ` [Qemu-devel] Closing Bitmaps (Was: Re: [PATCH v7 03/24] block: Release dirty bitmaps in bdrv_close()) John Snow
2015-11-18 2:29 ` Fam Zheng [this message]
2015-11-18 15:47 ` John Snow
2015-11-18 15:03 ` Kevin Wolf
2015-11-18 15:49 ` John Snow
2015-11-09 22:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 04/24] iotests: Rename filter_nbd to _filter_nbd in 083 Max Reitz
2015-11-12 6:25 ` Fam Zheng
2015-11-09 22:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 05/24] iotests: Change coding style of " Max Reitz
2015-11-12 6:25 ` Fam Zheng
2015-11-09 22:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 06/24] iotests: Move _filter_nbd into common.filter Max Reitz
2015-11-12 6:26 ` Fam Zheng
2015-11-09 22:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 07/24] iotests: Make _filter_nbd drop log lines Max Reitz
2015-11-12 6:27 ` Fam Zheng
2015-11-09 22:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 08/24] iotests: Make _filter_nbd support more URL types Max Reitz
2015-11-12 6:28 ` Fam Zheng
2015-11-09 22:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 09/24] iotests: Make redirecting qemu's stderr optional Max Reitz
2015-11-12 6:31 ` Fam Zheng
2015-11-09 22:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 10/24] iotests: Add test for eject under NBD server Max Reitz
2015-11-11 21:46 ` John Snow
2015-11-12 6:37 ` Fam Zheng
2015-11-09 22:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 11/24] block: Add BB-BDS remove/insert notifiers Max Reitz
2015-11-09 22:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 12/24] virtio-blk: Functions for op blocker management Max Reitz
2015-11-25 15:57 ` Kevin Wolf
2015-11-25 16:03 ` Max Reitz
2015-11-25 16:18 ` Kevin Wolf
2015-11-25 16:26 ` Max Reitz
2015-11-26 7:48 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2015-11-26 10:43 ` Kevin Wolf
2015-11-09 22:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 13/24] virtio-scsi: Catch BDS-BB removal/insertion Max Reitz
2015-11-25 16:03 ` Kevin Wolf
2015-11-25 16:08 ` Max Reitz
2015-11-09 22:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 14/24] nbd: Switch from close to eject notifier Max Reitz
2015-11-30 15:36 ` Kevin Wolf
2015-11-30 17:22 ` Max Reitz
2015-12-01 13:16 ` Kevin Wolf
2015-12-02 15:51 ` Max Reitz
2015-11-09 22:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 15/24] block: Remove BDS close notifier Max Reitz
2015-11-30 15:38 ` Kevin Wolf
2015-11-09 22:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 16/24] block: Use blk_remove_bs() in blk_delete() Max Reitz
2015-11-09 22:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 17/24] blockdev: Use blk_remove_bs() in do_drive_del() Max Reitz
2015-11-09 22:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 18/24] block: Make bdrv_close() static Max Reitz
2015-11-12 7:07 ` Fam Zheng
2015-11-09 22:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 19/24] block: Add list of all BlockDriverStates Max Reitz
2015-11-12 7:12 ` Fam Zheng
2015-11-16 16:03 ` Max Reitz
2015-11-09 22:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 20/24] blockdev: Keep track of monitor-owned BDS Max Reitz
2015-11-10 1:25 ` Max Reitz
2015-11-09 22:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 21/24] block: Add blk_remove_all_bs() Max Reitz
2015-11-09 22:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 22/24] block: Rewrite bdrv_close_all() Max Reitz
2015-11-12 7:34 ` Fam Zheng
2015-11-16 16:15 ` Max Reitz
2015-11-18 2:52 ` Fam Zheng
2015-11-09 22:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 23/24] iotests: Add test for multiple BB on BDS tree Max Reitz
2015-11-09 22:39 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 24/24] iotests: Add test for block jobs and BDS ejection Max Reitz
2015-11-30 16:23 ` Kevin Wolf
2015-11-30 17:44 ` Max Reitz
2015-11-25 16:09 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v7 for-2.6 00/24] block: Rework bdrv_close_all() Kevin Wolf
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