From: "Neal P. Murphy" <neal.p.murphy@alum.wpi.edu>
To: netfilter@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: "raw" table versus "filter" table
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2015 19:17:20 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151118191720.007e3f79@playground> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <564CF1D6.9000709@digi-value.fr>
On Wed, 18 Nov 2015 22:47:02 +0100
David TAILLANDIER - DIGI VALUE <david.taillandier@digi-value.fr> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> according to the well-known netfilter schematic:
> http://inai.de/images/nf-packet-flow.png
> the "raw" table is processed before the "filter" table.
>
> I tested it with some usual commands without problem:
> iptables --table raw --append PREROUTING --source 1.2.3.4 --jump REJECT
> iptables --table raw --append PREROUTING --in-interface lo --jump ACCEPT
>
> - the packets are handled sooner, without the need to go though
> conntrack+mangle+nat+routing. So less CPU/memory stress (and in turn
> lightly compensated by the fact the iptable_raw module has to be
> loaded ?)
> - only one rule in case the box is also a router (won't be ok for
> every rules, obviously) because there is no need to add the same rule
> for filter/forward
>
> The documentations I found always describe the raw table to be used in
> strict cases. But none give even the smallest justification.
>
> --> Is there any reasons not to use the raw table, apart dogmatic ones ?
Don't have an answer, but I'll have to look into 'raw' for Smoothwall Express. I'll use pert near *anything* that will reduce 'wasteful' CPU load. Combined with ipset, it should be possible to drop all packets to and from 'banned' public IPs using fewer CPU cycles. I already drop INVALID in mangle:PREROUTING. Dropping packets to and from banned addresses in raw:PREROUTING and rejecting packets to banned IPs in raw:OUTPUT would reduce unneeded processing. Of course, this idea depends on whether ipset can be used in the raw table.
One drawback is that NAT doesn't have a chance to re-address these packets. But this might not be too bad, since one doesn't want any traffic to or from banned IPs anyway.
Neal
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-11-19 0:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 3+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-11-18 21:47 "raw" table versus "filter" table David TAILLANDIER - DIGI VALUE
2015-11-19 0:17 ` Neal P. Murphy [this message]
2015-11-19 8:10 ` Pascal Hambourg
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=20151118191720.007e3f79@playground \
--to=neal.p.murphy@alum.wpi.edu \
--cc=netfilter@vger.kernel.org \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is an external index of several public inboxes,
see mirroring instructions on how to clone and mirror
all data and code used by this external index.