From: Christoph Hellwig <hch-jcswGhMUV9g@public.gmane.org>
To: Sagi Grimberg <sagig-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch-jcswGhMUV9g@public.gmane.org>,
dledford-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org,
linux-rdma-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
Liran Liss <liranl-VPRAkNaXOzVWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 10/11] IB: only keep a single key in struct ib_mr
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2015 14:13:27 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151222131326.GA25267@lst.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <56791542.6020604-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org>
On Tue, Dec 22, 2015 at 11:17:54AM +0200, Sagi Grimberg wrote:
> What makes me worried here is that the IB/RoCE specification really
> defines different keys for local and remote access. I'm less concerned
> about our consumers but more about our providers. We keep seeing new
> providers come along and its not impossible that a specific HW will
> *rely* on this distinction. In such a case we'd need to revert this
> patch altogether in that very moment.
>
> I think we're better off working on proper abstractions to help ULPs
> get it right (and simple!), without risking future devices support.
With the new API in the next patch ULPs simply can't request an lkey
and a rkey at the same time, so for kernel use it's not a problmblem at
all. That leaves my favourite nightmare: uverbs, which of course
allows for everything under the sun, just because we can. I guess
the right answer to that problem is to first split the data structures
for kernel and user MRs, which we probably should have done much
earlier. Not just because of this but also because of other issues
like all the fields your FR API changs added to ib_mr that aren't needed
for user MRs, or becaue the user MR structure should reallbe be merged with
struct ib_umem.
>
> Sagi.
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Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-11-22 17:46 memory registration updates Christoph Hellwig
[not found] ` <1448214409-7729-1-git-send-email-hch-jcswGhMUV9g@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-22 17:46 ` [PATCH 01/11] IB: start documenting device capabilities Christoph Hellwig
2015-11-22 17:46 ` [PATCH 02/11] IB: remove ib_query_mr Christoph Hellwig
2015-11-22 17:46 ` [PATCH 03/11] IB: remove support for phys MRs Christoph Hellwig
[not found] ` <1448214409-7729-4-git-send-email-hch-jcswGhMUV9g@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-24 12:01 ` Devesh Sharma
2015-11-22 17:46 ` [PATCH 04/11] IB: remove in-kernel support for memory windows Christoph Hellwig
2015-11-22 17:46 ` [PATCH 05/11] cxgb3: simplify iwch_get_dma_wr Christoph Hellwig
2015-11-22 17:46 ` [PATCH 06/11] nes: simplify nes_reg_phys_mr calling conventions Christoph Hellwig
2015-11-22 17:46 ` [PATCH 07/11] amso1100: fold c2_reg_phys_mr into c2_get_dma_mr Christoph Hellwig
2015-11-22 17:46 ` [PATCH 08/11] ehca: stop using struct ib_phys_buf Christoph Hellwig
2015-11-22 17:46 ` [PATCH 09/11] IB: remove the struct ib_phys_buf definition Christoph Hellwig
2015-11-22 17:46 ` [PATCH 10/11] IB: only keep a single key in struct ib_mr Christoph Hellwig
[not found] ` <1448214409-7729-11-git-send-email-hch-jcswGhMUV9g@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-23 19:41 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20151123194124.GF32085-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-23 19:48 ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-12-22 9:17 ` Sagi Grimberg
[not found] ` <56791542.6020604-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-22 13:13 ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
[not found] ` <20151222131326.GA25267-jcswGhMUV9g@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-22 13:50 ` Sagi Grimberg
[not found] ` <56795514.9090704-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-22 13:59 ` Christoph Hellwig
[not found] ` <20151222135927.GA26311-jcswGhMUV9g@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-22 16:58 ` Sagi Grimberg
[not found] ` <56798126.9000003-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-22 21:09 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <7sikrilf3ik3fjsgppqxh9gn.1451043246057@email.android.com>
[not found] ` <CAMHdiBDv9mScD+5o90OQ_tmAKw9o48_jfao6W+EBOZkUg+wReA@mail.gmail.com>
[not found] ` <CAMHdiBDv9mScD+5o90OQ_tmAKw9o48_jfao6W+EBOZkUg+wReA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2015-12-25 16:46 ` Liran Liss
[not found] ` <CAMHdiBC75n+u9BSMsKxJwcaBnGL68_3UBeQQtHp_CD5KGcUTnQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-05 17:46 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20160105174636.GD16269-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-06 6:08 ` Christoph Hellwig
[not found] ` <20160106060806.GA16509-jcswGhMUV9g@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-06 15:10 ` Sagi Grimberg
[not found] ` <568D2E4E.5020806-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-06 16:59 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-11-22 17:46 ` [PATCH 11/11] IB: provide better access flags for fast registrations Christoph Hellwig
[not found] ` <1448214409-7729-12-git-send-email-hch-jcswGhMUV9g@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-23 15:09 ` Chuck Lever
[not found] ` <EE465F12-A5F6-4C95-A77C-199DFF8F77BD-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-23 15:49 ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-11-23 18:58 ` Jason Gunthorpe
[not found] ` <20151123185829.GE32085-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-23 19:44 ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-11-23 9:03 ` memory registration updates Sagi Grimberg
[not found] ` <5652D66E.5070600-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-23 14:16 ` Christoph Hellwig
[not found] ` <20151123141650.GA11116-jcswGhMUV9g@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-23 15:17 ` Sagi Grimberg
[not found] ` <56532E0A.20907-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org>
2015-11-23 19:43 ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-11-23 15:06 ` Steve Wise
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