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From: Andreas Kemnade <andreas@kemnade.info>
To: One Thousand Gnomes <gnomes@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: "H. Nikolaus Schaller" <hns@goldelico.com>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>,
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	Vostrikov Andrey <andrey.vostrikov@cogentembedded.com>,
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	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
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	Grant Likely <grant.likely@linaro.org>,
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Subject: Re: [Gta04-owner] [PATCH 0/4] UART slave device support - version 4
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2016 07:32:31 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160119073231.19f16f28@kemnade.info> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160118220319.051c9cc0@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>

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On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 22:03:19 +0000
One Thousand Gnomes <gnomes@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> wrote:

> > > Your user space can do it (as most Android does).
> > 
> > How can it do it in automatically in a standardized way without need for daemon support?
> 
> You don't need to - it can be device specific. In Android it usually is.
> I've never understood why low end devices don't also abstract user space
> descriptions of power control into DT nodes as well as kernel properties ?
> 
Well, on these android devices, they are only intended to run android and
have another abstraction layer where you can hide things.
If doing actions on opening or closing a tty should not be implemented in
kernel space, then an alternative I see would be to at least have proper
rfkill support for bluetooth and gps in kernel. Then userspace can at least
can talk to a standardised interface. So userspace just has to implement
generic things.

That would mean for the kernel drivers needed:


W2CBW003/bluetooth:
   map the rfkill to just a simple regulator

W2SG0004/gps:
   being notified about incoming data
     a) the nice way: getting it from the tty/tty_port layer
 	(but requiring changes at generic kernel code)
        or
     b) the ugly way:
        remux the data line as a gpio and simply look for state
        changes during rfkill call (probably only during unblock)
	The first characters after power on would probably be lost
        toggle a gpio depending on the desired and detected state

Regards,
Andreas

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-01-19  6:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 104+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-05-11  1:56 [PATCH 0/4] UART slave device support - version 4 NeilBrown
     [not found] ` <20150511013540.5709.93626.stgit-wvvUuzkyo1EYVZTmpyfIwg@public.gmane.org>
2015-05-11  1:56   ` [PATCH 4/4] tty/slaves: add a driver to power on/off UART attached devices NeilBrown
2015-05-11  1:56     ` NeilBrown
2015-08-07 13:01   ` [PATCH 0/4] UART slave device support - version 4 Linus Walleij
2015-08-07 13:01     ` Linus Walleij
2015-08-11 23:20     ` NeilBrown
2015-08-28  5:52       ` [Gta04-owner] " Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
     [not found]         ` <CD86D8CD-20D8-44EF-8245-A3E49C2D3EA7-xXXSsgcRVICgSpxsJD1C4w@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-28  7:02           ` Pavel Machek
2015-08-28  7:02             ` Pavel Machek
2015-08-28  9:43             ` Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
     [not found]               ` <0579762D-51C2-45F0-A362-EE31215A40E8-xXXSsgcRVICgSpxsJD1C4w@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-28 11:04                 ` Pavel Machek
2015-08-28 11:04                   ` Pavel Machek
2015-08-28 20:04                   ` Christ van Willegen
2016-01-12 13:06   ` Tomeu Vizoso
2016-01-12 13:06     ` Tomeu Vizoso
2016-01-12 13:28     ` [Gta04-owner] " H. Nikolaus Schaller
2016-01-13 19:15       ` Mark Rutland
2016-01-15  9:34         ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2016-01-15 11:01           ` Mark Rutland
2016-01-15 15:05             ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
     [not found]               ` <69F8E1E5-EF49-4C8E-88E9-973F82F7102E-xXXSsgcRVICgSpxsJD1C4w@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-15 15:43                 ` Andrey Vostrikov
2016-01-15 15:43                   ` Andrey Vostrikov
2016-01-15 16:08                   ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
     [not found]                     ` <CB69F6F0-B40B-47D1-B175-8401F43288C5-xXXSsgcRVICgSpxsJD1C4w@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-15 17:16                       ` Peter Hurley
2016-01-15 17:16                         ` Peter Hurley
     [not found]                         ` <56992959.2020204-WaGBZJeGNqdsbIuE7sb01tBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-15 17:32                           ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2016-01-15 17:32                             ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2016-01-15 17:43                             ` Peter Hurley
2016-01-15 17:58                               ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
     [not found]                                 ` <69FAE2F5-25D1-4E5E-9FED-FC86773269D6-xXXSsgcRVICgSpxsJD1C4w@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-15 19:23                                   ` Peter Hurley
2016-01-15 19:23                                     ` Peter Hurley
2016-01-15 21:24                                     ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2016-01-15 22:40                         ` Rob Herring
     [not found]                           ` <CAL_JsqL=Wotz4FuoV7PULfZNfSV=S_q0iOzkckVA3NDDzMdfZQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-16  7:34                             ` Vostrikov Andrey
2016-01-16  7:34                               ` Vostrikov Andrey
2016-01-16 23:31                               ` Rob Herring
2016-01-17  8:53                                 ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2016-01-17  8:53                                   ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
     [not found]                                   ` <3D5F35D7-31B5-4E68-875F-7DD492EF0316-xXXSsgcRVICgSpxsJD1C4w@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-17 14:19                                     ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-01-17 14:19                                       ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-01-17 17:57                                       ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
     [not found]                                         ` <1D5F146E-D347-453B-9158-8D269F8DA99C-xXXSsgcRVICgSpxsJD1C4w@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-17 19:38                                           ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-01-17 19:38                                             ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-01-18  8:17                                             ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
     [not found]                                               ` <37DCE36D-0A5E-41C5-BDA4-857DCF9F2DD1-xXXSsgcRVICgSpxsJD1C4w@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-18  8:56                                                 ` Andrey Vostrikov
2016-01-18  8:56                                                   ` Andrey Vostrikov
2016-01-18 11:52                                                   ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2016-01-18 11:52                                                     ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2016-01-18 11:19                                                 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-01-18 11:19                                                   ` One Thousand Gnomes
     [not found]                                               ` <20160118111926.0882b422@ lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
     [not found]                                                 ` <20160118111926.0882b422-qBU/x9rampVanCEyBjwyrvXRex20P6io@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-18 20:58                                                   ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2016-01-18 20:58                                                     ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
     [not found]                                                     ` <07F3B6C0-0C87-478C-B6DD-5C0EECB42D0D-xXXSsgcRVICgSpxsJD1C4w@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-18 22:03                                                       ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-01-18 22:03                                                         ` One Thousand Gnomes
     [not found]                                                         ` <20160118220319.051c9cc0-qBU/x9rampVanCEyBjwyrvXRex20P6io@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-18 22:32                                                           ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2016-01-18 22:32                                                             ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
     [not found]                                                             ` <C1E6AFE7-1EF2-4C70-8BE2-82F5CD7DDE22-xXXSsgcRVICgSpxsJD1C4w@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-19 14:25                                                               ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-01-19 14:25                                                                 ` One Thousand Gnomes
     [not found]                                                                 ` <20160119142542.5bf64395-qBU/x9rampVanCEyBjwyrvXRex20P6io@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-20 17:33                                                                   ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2016-01-20 17:33                                                                     ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2016-01-20 16:11                                                               ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2016-01-20 16:11                                                                 ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
     [not found]                                                                 ` <9E37C552-361C-4A54-980E-E3BFFF834302-xXXSsgcRVICgSpxsJD1C4w@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-20 17:46                                                                   ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-01-20 17:46                                                                     ` One Thousand Gnomes
     [not found]                                                                     ` <20160120174610.1c64239a-qBU/x9rampVanCEyBjwyrvXRex20P6io@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-20 18:03                                                                       ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2016-01-20 18:03                                                                         ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2016-01-21 10:01                                                                         ` Radek Polak
     [not found]                                                                         ` <39B850CE-E381-4D3B-BD0A-84AFE7DAEEDF-xXXSsgcRVICgSpxsJD1C4w@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-22 15:45                                                                           ` Tomeu Vizoso
2016-01-22 15:45                                                                             ` Tomeu Vizoso
2016-01-22 16:49                                                                             ` Rob Herring
     [not found]                                                                             ` <CAAObsKB4oFeM9Cjet5z+vz0S1M8RZ3jFt03b38KXq+sh6f5EwA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-22 20:12                                                                               ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-01-22 20:12                                                                                 ` One Thousand Gnomes
     [not found]                                                                                 ` <20160122201229.5df0bb2d-qBU/x9rampVanCEyBjwyrvXRex20P6io@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-23  7:40                                                                                   ` Andreas Kemnade
2016-01-23  7:40                                                                                     ` Andreas Kemnade
2016-01-23 12:19                                                                                   ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2016-01-23 12:19                                                                                     ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
     [not found]                                                                                     ` <DF404071-9FD0-4B33-B1B5-EC14192655E7-xXXSsgcRVICgSpxsJD1C4w@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-23 17:28                                                                                       ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-01-23 17:28                                                                                         ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-01-23 22:04                                                                                         ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2016-01-23 22:04                                                                                           ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2016-01-24 17:10                                                                                           ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-01-25 10:36                                                                                             ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2016-01-25 10:36                                                                                               ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2016-01-19  6:32                                                         ` Andreas Kemnade [this message]
     [not found]                               ` <744620565.20160116103445-M4DtvfQ/ZS1MRgGoP+s0PdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-20 19:38                                 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2016-01-20 19:38                                   ` Dmitry Torokhov
     [not found]                                   ` <CAKdAkRQh7xSgOXERhA8EjXEfX5m-PTTjiv757X7FYxK=bhfpww-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-20 20:09                                     ` Vostrikov Andrey
2016-01-20 20:09                                       ` Vostrikov Andrey
2016-01-15 16:12               ` Mark Rutland
2016-01-15 19:16                 ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2016-01-15 19:16                   ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
2016-01-15 19:40           ` Pavel Machek
2016-01-15 20:35             ` H. Nikolaus Schaller
     [not found]     ` <CAAObsKD7-02HVUosXVwqcH6HyGEGYJ9jdNepuNhLiiL+ujO5iw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-12 21:28       ` NeilBrown
2016-01-12 21:28         ` NeilBrown
     [not found]         ` <87lh7u8p3b.fsf-wvvUuzkyo1HefUI2i7LXDhCRmIWqnp/j@public.gmane.org>
2016-01-13 19:00           ` Pavel Machek
2016-01-13 19:00             ` Pavel Machek
2015-05-11  1:56 ` [PATCH 1/4] TTY: use class_find_device to find port in uart_suspend/resume NeilBrown
2015-05-11  1:56 ` [PATCH 3/4] TTY: add support for uart_slave devices NeilBrown
2015-05-12  8:31   ` Paul Bolle
2015-05-12 23:35     ` NeilBrown
2015-05-12 23:35       ` NeilBrown
2015-05-11  1:56 ` [PATCH 2/4] TTY: split tty_register_device_attr into 'initialize' and 'add' parts NeilBrown
2015-05-31 22:01 ` [PATCH 0/4] UART slave device support - version 4 Greg Kroah-Hartman

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