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From: Ferruh Yigit <ferruh.yigit@intel.com>
To: Aaron Conole <aconole@redhat.com>
Cc: dev@dpdk.org
Subject: Re: [RFC 0/3] Use common Linux tools to control DPDK	ports
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2016 09:59:50 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160119095950.GA15736@sivlogin002.ir.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87twmauafh.fsf@redhat.com>

On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 11:20:02AM -0500, Aaron Conole wrote:
> Ferruh Yigit <ferruh.yigit@intel.com> writes:
> > This work is to make DPDK ports more visible and to enable using common
> > Linux tools to configure DPDK ports.
> 
> This is a good goal. Only question - why use an additional kernel module
> to do this? Is it _JUST_ for ethtool support? 

Kernel module used to create/destroy Linux net_devices, and module has a simple
driver for that device which only handles control messages by passing them into
userspace.

To represent DPDK ports as Linux net_devices we need kernel support.

> I think the other stuff
> can be accomplished using netlink sockets + messages, no?

Netlink sockets just used to communicate kernel-space - user-space, this is not
why we need a kernel module, for example this communication is implemented in
original KNI as part of FIFO.

>The only
> trepidation I would have with something like this is the support from
> major vendors - out of tree modules are not generally supportable. Might
> be good to get some of the ethtool commands as netlink messages as well,
> then it is supportable with no 3rd party kernel modules.

Yes, there is a out of three module problem for some distros, but unfortunately
we are not able to find a solution for this case without an external kernel module.

This patch is still an RFC and if we receive suggested solution without a kernel
module, we can work on it together.

Thanks,
ferruh

  reply	other threads:[~2016-01-19 10:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-01-15 16:18 [RFC 0/3] Use common Linux tools to control DPDK ports Ferruh Yigit
2016-01-15 16:18 ` [RFC 1/3] rte_ctrl_if: add control interface library Ferruh Yigit
2016-01-15 16:18 ` [RFC 2/3] kcp: add kernel control path kernel module Ferruh Yigit
2016-01-15 16:18 ` [RFC 3/3] examples/ethtool: add control interface support to the application Ferruh Yigit
2016-01-18 16:20 ` [RFC 0/3] Use common Linux tools to control DPDK ports Aaron Conole
2016-01-19  9:59   ` Ferruh Yigit [this message]
2016-01-19 11:29     ` Panu Matilainen
2016-02-04 13:30       ` Ferruh Yigit
2016-02-04 13:38         ` Ferruh Yigit
2016-02-04 14:40         ` Aaron Conole
2016-02-04 16:28           ` Ferruh Yigit
2016-01-18 23:12 ` Stephen Hemminger
2016-01-18 23:48   ` Jay Rolette
2016-01-19  1:36     ` Stephen Hemminger
2016-01-19 10:08     ` Ferruh Yigit

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