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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky.work@gmail.com>
Cc: Byungchul Park <byungchul.park@lge.com>,
	willy@linux.intel.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, akinobu.mita@gmail.com,
	jack@suse.cz, peter@hurleysoftware.com,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] lock/semaphore: Avoid an unnecessary deadlock within up()
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2016 09:04:47 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160203080447.GC32652@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160203074223.GB30520@swordfish>


* Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky.work@gmail.com> wrote:

> On (02/03/16 08:28), Ingo Molnar wrote:
> [..]
> > So why not move printk away from semaphores? Semaphores are classical constructs 
> > that have legacies and are somewhat non-obvious to use, compared to modern, 
> > simpler locking primitives. I'd not touch their implementation, unless we are 
> > absolutely sure this is a safe optimization.
> 
> semaphore's spin_lock is not the only spin lock that printk acquires. it also 
> takes the logbuf_lock (and different locks in console drivers (up to console 
> driver)).
>
> Jan Kara posted a patch that offloads printing job 
> (console_trylock()-console_unlock()) from printk() call (when printk can offload 
> it). so semaphore and console driver's locks will go away (mostly) with Jan's 
> patch. logbug spin_lock, however, will stay.

Well, but this patch of yours only affects the semaphore code, so it does not 
change the logbuf_lock situation.

Furthermore, logbuf_lock already has recursion protection:

        /*
         * Ouch, printk recursed into itself!
         */
        if (unlikely(logbuf_cpu == this_cpu)) {

so it should not be possible to re-enter the printk() logbuf_lock critical section 
from the spinlock code. (There are other ways to get the logbuf_lock - if those 
are still triggerable then they should be fixed.)

In any case, recursion protection is generally done in the debugging facilities 
trying to behave lockless.

Thanks,

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2016-02-03  8:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-02-03  6:02 [PATCH v2] lock/semaphore: Avoid an unnecessary deadlock within up() Byungchul Park
2016-02-03  7:28 ` Ingo Molnar
2016-02-03  7:42   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-02-03  8:04     ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2016-02-03  8:28       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-02-03  9:02         ` Ingo Molnar
2016-02-03  8:12     ` Byungchul Park
2016-02-03  8:30       ` Sergey Senozhatsky

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