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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Chris Metcalf <cmetcalf@mellanox.com>
Cc: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	Gilad Ben Yossef <giladb@ezchip.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
	Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v10 05/12] task_isolation: support CONFIG_TASK_ISOLATION_ALL
Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2016 13:31:58 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160305123158.GA25399@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <56D8931E.4060205@mellanox.com>


* Chris Metcalf <cmetcalf@mellanox.com> wrote:

> On 03/03/2016 01:34 PM, Andi Kleen wrote:
> >Chris Metcalf <cmetcalf@ezchip.com> writes:
> >>+config TASK_ISOLATION_ALL
> >>+	bool "Provide task isolation on all CPUs by default (except CPU 0)"
> >>+	depends on TASK_ISOLATION
> >>+	help
> >>+	 If the user doesn't pass the task_isolation boot option to
> >>+	 define the range of task isolation CPUs, consider that all
> >>+	 CPUs in the system are task isolation by default.
> >>+	 Note the boot CPU will still be kept outside the range to
> >>+	 handle timekeeping duty, etc.
> >That seems like a very dangerous Kconfig option.
> >"CONFIG_BREAK_EVERYTHING"
> >If someone sets that by default they will have a lot of trouble.
> >
> >I wouldn't add that, make it a run time option only.
> 
> So you were thinking, allow a special boot syntax "task_isolation=all",
> which puts all the cores into task isolation mode except the boot core?
> 
> My original argument was that it was so parallel to the existing
> CONFIG_NO_HZ_FULL_ALL option that it just made sense to do it,
> and some testers complained about having to specify the precise
> cpu range, so this seemed like an easy fix.

Yes, it's absolutely legitimate to offer boot options as Kconfig options as well - 
in fact that will get things like randconfig bootups stumble upon them and do some 
free testing for you. Just ignore Andi's nonsensical objection.

One day we'll have a unified boot parameter/Kconfig/sysctl mechanism, so that it 
will be possible to say things like this on the boot command line:

  CONFIG_NO_HZ_FULL_ALL=y

... which will eliminate quite a bit of the current schizm between Kconfig and 
boot time parameters.

Thanks,

	Ingo

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-03-05 12:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-03-02 20:09 [PATCH v10 00/12] support "task_isolation" mode Chris Metcalf
2016-03-02 20:09 ` Chris Metcalf
2016-03-02 20:09 ` [PATCH v10 01/12] vmstat: add quiet_vmstat_sync function Chris Metcalf
2016-03-02 20:09 ` [PATCH v10 02/12] vmstat: add vmstat_idle function Chris Metcalf
2016-03-02 20:09 ` [PATCH v10 03/12] lru_add_drain_all: factor out lru_add_drain_needed Chris Metcalf
2016-03-02 20:09   ` Chris Metcalf
2016-03-02 20:09 ` [PATCH v10 04/12] task_isolation: add initial support Chris Metcalf
2016-03-02 20:09   ` Chris Metcalf
2016-03-02 20:09 ` [PATCH v10 05/12] task_isolation: support CONFIG_TASK_ISOLATION_ALL Chris Metcalf
2016-03-03 18:34   ` Andi Kleen
2016-03-03 19:40     ` Chris Metcalf
2016-03-03 20:04       ` Andi Kleen
2016-03-05 12:31       ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2016-03-02 20:09 ` [PATCH v10 06/12] task_isolation: support PR_TASK_ISOLATION_STRICT mode Chris Metcalf
2016-03-02 20:09   ` Chris Metcalf
2016-03-02 20:09 ` [PATCH v10 07/12] task_isolation: add debug boot flag Chris Metcalf
2016-03-02 20:37   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-03-02 20:56     ` Chris Metcalf
2016-03-02 20:09 ` [PATCH v10 08/12] arm, tile: turn off timer tick for oneshot_stopped state Chris Metcalf
2016-03-02 20:09 ` [PATCH v10 09/12] arch/x86: enable task isolation functionality Chris Metcalf
2016-03-03  0:36   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-03-03 19:52     ` Chris Metcalf
2016-03-03 23:46       ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-03-07 20:51         ` Chris Metcalf
2016-03-07 20:55           ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-03-08 20:40             ` Chris Metcalf
2016-03-09 20:58               ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-03-09 21:05                 ` Chris Metcalf
2016-03-09 21:07                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-03-09 21:13                     ` Chris Metcalf
2016-03-09 21:10                 ` Kees Cook
2016-03-09 21:18                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-03-09 21:25                     ` Kees Cook
2016-03-09 21:57                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-03-02 20:09 ` [PATCH v10 10/12] arch/tile: " Chris Metcalf
2016-03-02 20:09 ` [PATCH v10 11/12] arm64: factor work_pending state machine to C Chris Metcalf
2016-03-02 20:09   ` Chris Metcalf
2016-03-04 16:38   ` Will Deacon
2016-03-04 16:38     ` Will Deacon
2016-03-04 20:02     ` Chris Metcalf
2016-03-04 20:02       ` Chris Metcalf
2016-03-14 10:29       ` Mark Rutland
2016-03-14 10:29         ` Mark Rutland
2016-03-02 20:09 ` [PATCH v10 12/12] arch/arm64: enable task isolation functionality Chris Metcalf
2016-03-02 20:09   ` Chris Metcalf

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