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From: Leon Romanovsky <leon-2ukJVAZIZ/Y@public.gmane.org>
To: Doug Ledford <dledford-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Or Gerlitz <gerlitz.or-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Dennis Dalessandro
	<dennis.dalessandro-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: "linux-rdma-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org"
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/16] IB/hfi1: Add a page pinning cache for PSM sdma
Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2016 09:09:51 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160314070951.GB26456@leon.nu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160310045609.GC1977-2ukJVAZIZ/Y@public.gmane.org>

On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 06:56:09AM +0200, Leon Romanovsky wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 09, 2016 at 02:21:10PM -0500, Dennis Dalessandro wrote:
> > On Wed, Mar 09, 2016 at 07:07:31AM +0200, Leon Romanovsky wrote:
> > >On Tue, Mar 08, 2016 at 07:21:58PM -0500, Dennis Dalessandro wrote:
> > >>On Tue, Mar 08, 2016 at 10:56:48PM +0200, Or Gerlitz wrote:
> > >>>On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 9:14 PM, Dennis Dalessandro
> > >>><dennis.dalessandro-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>>This patch series adds a performance improvement to user SDMA transfers from
> > >>>>PSM applications by caching user buffer pages after pinning them. Subsequent
> > >>>>uses of the same user buffer will not incur the cost of pinning the same pages
> > >>>>again. Additionally, the cost of unpinning the same pages is avoided.  Buffer
> > >>>>pages are unpinned when the context is torn down or when the driver determines
> > >>>>that the buffer should be evicted from the cache. Cache evictions happen when
> > >>>>there is a request for a new, uncached buffer and the current size of the cache
> > >>>>has reached a pre-defined limit.
> > >>>
> > >>>If indeed there's a need for such a pin down cache, it should have
> > >>>been implemented in the IB core, b/c both the problem and the solution
> > >>>are generic and have nothing to do with certain device driver.
> > >>
> > >>Since this is for psm it has nothing to do with the IB core. I fail to see
> > >>what that would achieve.
> > >
> > >I tend to agree with Or, your proposal goes far beyond the driver code.
> > >Do you expect that all drivers which will be needed to support PSM will
> > >implement (copy/paste) the same generic logic?
> > 
> > We should not be putting something which is specific to PSM in the IB core.
> > We feel the driver is the most appropriate place for this.
> 
> To use cache logic - yes
> To implement cache logic - no
> 
> Can you share with us the technical justification of implementing general
> memory management cache mechanism in driver and not in appropriate layer
> (IB/core and/or MM)?

Hi Doug,
I saw that you picked these patches and it is now in your github
repository. Since the original author probably missed my and Or's questions, It
will be great if you can share with us your technical view on the topic.

In addition to my question regarding appropriate layer - IB/core. MM, I see that
it can be natively implemented in user-space layer too.

Thanks.

> 
> Thanks.
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-03-14  7:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-03-08 19:14 [PATCH 00/16] IB/hfi1: Add a page pinning cache for PSM sdma Dennis Dalessandro
     [not found] ` <20160308191210.30542.91885.stgit-9QXIwq+3FY+1XWohqUldA0EOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2016-03-08 19:14   ` [PATCH 01/16] IB/hfi1: Re-factor MMU notification code Dennis Dalessandro
2016-03-08 19:14   ` [PATCH 02/16] IB/hfi1: Allow MMU function execution in IRQ context Dennis Dalessandro
2016-03-08 19:14   ` [PATCH 03/16] IB/hfi1: Prevent NULL pointer dereference Dennis Dalessandro
2016-03-08 19:14   ` [PATCH 04/16] IB/hfi1: Allow remove MMU callbacks to free nodes Dennis Dalessandro
2016-03-08 19:14   ` [PATCH 05/16] IB/hfi1: Remove the use of add/remove RB function pointers Dennis Dalessandro
2016-03-08 19:14   ` [PATCH 06/16] IB/hfi1: Notify remove MMU/RB callback of calling context Dennis Dalessandro
2016-03-08 19:14   ` [PATCH 07/16] IB/hfi1: Use interval RB trees Dennis Dalessandro
2016-03-08 19:14   ` [PATCH 08/16] IB/hfi1: Add MMU tracing Dennis Dalessandro
2016-03-08 19:15   ` [PATCH 09/16] IB/hfi1: Remove compare callback Dennis Dalessandro
2016-03-08 19:15   ` [PATCH 10/16] IB/hfi1: Add filter callback Dennis Dalessandro
2016-03-08 19:15   ` [PATCH 11/16] IB/hfi1: Adjust last address values for intervals Dennis Dalessandro
2016-03-08 19:15   ` [PATCH 12/16] IB/hfi1: Implement SDMA-side buffer caching Dennis Dalessandro
2016-03-08 19:15   ` [PATCH 13/16] IB/hfi1: Add pin query function Dennis Dalessandro
2016-03-08 19:15   ` [PATCH 14/16] IB/hfi1: Specify mm when releasing pages Dennis Dalessandro
2016-03-08 19:15   ` [PATCH 15/16] IB/hfi1: Switch to using the pin query function Dennis Dalessandro
2016-03-08 19:15   ` [PATCH 16/16] IB/hfi1: Add SDMA cache eviction algorithm Dennis Dalessandro
2016-03-08 20:56   ` [PATCH 00/16] IB/hfi1: Add a page pinning cache for PSM sdma Or Gerlitz
     [not found]     ` <CAJ3xEMj8gz6Xw1bqA677fC8=U2ktLQ6b4W20SeNrztN7u6UKZg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-03-09  0:21       ` Dennis Dalessandro
     [not found]         ` <20160309002157.GA20105-W4f6Xiosr+yv7QzWx2u06xL4W9x8LtSr@public.gmane.org>
2016-03-09  5:07           ` Leon Romanovsky
     [not found]             ` <20160309050731.GM13396-2ukJVAZIZ/Y@public.gmane.org>
2016-03-09 19:21               ` Dennis Dalessandro
     [not found]                 ` <20160309192109.GB15031-W4f6Xiosr+yv7QzWx2u06xL4W9x8LtSr@public.gmane.org>
2016-03-10  4:56                   ` Leon Romanovsky
     [not found]                     ` <20160310045609.GC1977-2ukJVAZIZ/Y@public.gmane.org>
2016-03-14  7:09                       ` Leon Romanovsky [this message]
     [not found]                         ` <20160314070951.GB26456-2ukJVAZIZ/Y@public.gmane.org>
2016-03-14 12:01                           ` Dennis Dalessandro
     [not found]                             ` <20160314120152.GA30838-W4f6Xiosr+yv7QzWx2u06xL4W9x8LtSr@public.gmane.org>
2016-03-14 12:27                               ` Leon Romanovsky
2016-03-14 21:19                               ` Or Gerlitz
     [not found]                                 ` <CAJ3xEMiSgXFT46r0Y7DZGr3mpJFSLrtYrMdz+DbCXDozbMYZRA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-03-15  1:20                                   ` Dennis Dalessandro
     [not found]                                     ` <20160315012049.GA30055-W4f6Xiosr+yv7QzWx2u06xL4W9x8LtSr@public.gmane.org>
2016-03-15  7:03                                       ` Or Gerlitz
     [not found]                                         ` <CAJ3xEMhToYOBMo_nNi2fFpTexUmUqb3zBX7zWWYjCDfPWpWn-w-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-03-15 19:37                                           ` Dennis Dalessandro
     [not found]                                             ` <20160315193731.GA20662-W4f6Xiosr+yv7QzWx2u06xL4W9x8LtSr@public.gmane.org>
2016-03-16 15:53                                               ` Or Gerlitz
     [not found]                                                 ` <CAJ3xEMjWxdwM0wQR85_-wHpPhYSWz1W0T8H_nDjnp2JS7G29Qw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-03-16 17:23                                                   ` Dennis Dalessandro
     [not found]                                                     ` <20160316172309.GB26530-W4f6Xiosr+yv7QzWx2u06xL4W9x8LtSr@public.gmane.org>
2016-03-22  7:33                                                       ` Or Gerlitz
     [not found]                                                         ` <CAJ3xEMg5OPBT63=VV4EKnZUWSHGatDRL0n7O4iBVrN9bMUw5dg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-03-22 11:46                                                           ` Dennis Dalessandro
2016-03-10  7:11                   ` Or Gerlitz
2016-03-09 14:47           ` Or Gerlitz
     [not found]             ` <CAJ3xEMhcs-6vDzsNk9nJKoNxTWnfaUtDmNHhLp1EPyerjnw2Xg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-03-09 15:19               ` Dennis Dalessandro

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