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From: Wei Liu <wei.liu2@citrix.com>
To: Ian Jackson <Ian.Jackson@eu.citrix.com>
Cc: Lars Kurth <lars.kurth@citrix.com>,
	Li Zhijian <lizhijian@cn.fujitsu.com>,
	Changlong Xie <xiecl.fnst@cn.fujitsu.com>,
	Wei Liu <wei.liu2@citrix.com>,
	Ian Campbell <ian.campbell@citrix.com>,
	Wen Congyang <wency@cn.fujitsu.com>,
	Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
	Jiang Yunhong <yunhong.jiang@intel.com>,
	Dong Eddie <eddie.dong@intel.com>,
	xen devel <xen-devel@lists.xen.org>,
	Anthony Perard <anthony.perard@citrix.com>,
	Gui Jianfeng <guijianfeng@cn.fujitsu.com>,
	Shriram Rajagopalan <rshriram@cs.ubc.ca>,
	Yang Hongyang <hongyang.yang@easystack.cn>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v12 00/26] COarse-grain LOck-stepping Virtual Machines for Non-stop Service
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 17:06:51 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160324170651.GA13351@citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <22260.5136.10322.105582@mariner.uk.xensource.com>

On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 04:21:36PM +0000, Ian Jackson wrote:
> Changlong Xie writes ("[PATCH v12 00/26] COarse-grain LOck-stepping Virtual Machines for Non-stop Service"):
> > This patchset implemented the COLO feature for Xen.
> > For detail/install/use of COLO feature, refer to:
> > http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/COLO_-_Coarse_Grain_Lock_Stepping
> 
> Thanks for this resend.  I have now worked my way through all the
> patches.  There are mostly only trivial problems, which will be easily
> fixed.
> 
> 
> There is IMO only one serious area of risk re COLO's acceptance for
> Xen 4.7:
> 
>   Subject: Re: [PATCH v12 14/26] primary vm suspend/resume/checkpoint code
>   Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 15:24:04 +0000
>   ...
>   libxl__ao_complete must not be called by some internal function in
>   this way.  Only the same layer within libxl that called AO_CREATE is
>   allowed to call libxl__ao_complete.
> 
> Fixing this will involve some code rearrangement and new code.  I am
> worried that this might not be sorted out by the Xen 4.7 freeze
> deadline.
> 

If the error handling issue only affects COLO (confined in COLO related
code, won't affect ordinary use cases), I'm fine with fixing it post
freeze.  I think this is the case because COLO code is now
self-contained.

> I recommend that you focus on fixing this patch, urgently, and post a
> new version of perhaps just that patch ("v12.1 14/26" perhaps) ASAP.
> 
> I am prepared to do some fixup myself but (i) I'm not sure I fully
> understand the new colo code well enough and (ii) I am going to be
> away, now, until Wednesday.  So relying on extensive help from me
> would be unwise.
> 
> 
> There is one other overall area of concern I have with COLO.  It's
> evident that to make use of this code, there are a number of moving
> parts which are not in xen.git and which I haven't seen.  As a result
> the API between libxl/xl and those other parts can't really be
> considered stable.
> 
> This is IMO fine at this stage of the project's lifecycle in xen.git.
> (I hope Wei, as co-maintainer of libxl, will agree.)
> 

Yes. I'm fine with COLO being experimental in 4.7 -- in fact I wouldn't
want it to be declared supported until we have a way of testing it.

> However, we really ought to be testing this code in osstest.  To do
> that we need a complete recipe for setting it up.  Ideally we would
> like code contributions for osstest.  That would also be a useful
> exercise to make sure that implementations of all the important
> components are available.
> 
> In the Xen 4.8 cycle I think we will need to look at this, with a view
> to moving COLO out of the `experimental' maturity level.
> 

That's fine.

Wei.

> Lars, do you have any input on this ?
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Ian.

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Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-03-23  8:06 [PATCH v12 00/26] COarse-grain LOck-stepping Virtual Machines for Non-stop Service Changlong Xie
2016-03-23  8:06 ` [PATCH v12 01/26] tools/libxl: introduction of libxl__qmp_restore to load qemu state Changlong Xie
2016-03-23  8:06 ` [PATCH v12 02/26] tools/libxl: introduce libxl__domain_common_switch_qemu_logdirty() Changlong Xie
2016-03-23  8:06 ` [PATCH v12 03/26] tools/libxl: Add back channel to allow migration target send data back Changlong Xie
2016-03-23  8:06 ` [PATCH v12 04/26] tools/libxl: Introduce new helper function dup_fd_helper() Changlong Xie
2016-03-23  8:06 ` [PATCH v12 05/26] tools/libx{l, c}: add back channel to libxc Changlong Xie
2016-03-23  8:06 ` [PATCH v12 06/26] docs: add colo readme Changlong Xie
2016-03-23  8:06 ` [PATCH v12 07/26] docs/libxl: Introduce CHECKPOINT_CONTEXT to support migration v2 colo streams Changlong Xie
2016-03-24 14:53   ` Ian Jackson
2016-03-23  8:06 ` [PATCH v12 08/26] libxc/migration: Specification update for DIRTY_PFN_LIST records Changlong Xie
2016-03-24 14:56   ` Ian Jackson
2016-03-23  8:06 ` [PATCH v12 09/26] libxc/migration: export read_record for common use Changlong Xie
2016-03-23  8:06 ` [PATCH v12 10/26] tools/libxl: add back channel support to write stream Changlong Xie
2016-03-24 16:49   ` Ian Jackson
2016-03-23  8:06 ` [PATCH v12 11/26] tools/libxl: add back channel support to read stream Changlong Xie
2016-03-24 14:57   ` Ian Jackson
2016-03-23  8:06 ` [PATCH v12 12/26] secondary vm suspend/resume/checkpoint code Changlong Xie
2016-03-24 15:15   ` Ian Jackson
2016-03-25  2:00     ` Changlong Xie
2016-03-23  8:06 ` [PATCH v12 13/26] libxl_internal: move stream read manipulations to right place Changlong Xie
2016-03-24 15:17   ` Ian Jackson
2016-03-23  8:06 ` [PATCH v12 14/26] primary vm suspend/resume/checkpoint code Changlong Xie
2016-03-24 15:24   ` Ian Jackson
2016-03-25  2:00     ` Changlong Xie
2016-03-25  6:33     ` Changlong Xie
2016-03-23  8:06 ` [PATCH v12 15/26] libxc/restore: support COLO restore Changlong Xie
2016-03-24 15:27   ` Ian Jackson
2016-03-23  8:06 ` [PATCH v12 16/26] libxc/save: support COLO save Changlong Xie
2016-03-24 15:28   ` Ian Jackson
2016-03-23  8:06 ` [PATCH v12 17/26] implement the cmdline for COLO Changlong Xie
2016-03-24 15:34   ` Ian Jackson
2016-03-23  8:06 ` [PATCH v12 18/26] COLO: introduce new API to prepare/start/do/get_error/stop replication Changlong Xie
2016-03-23  8:06 ` [PATCH v12 19/26] Introduce COLO mode and refactor relevant function Changlong Xie
2016-03-24 15:45   ` Ian Jackson
2016-03-25  2:02     ` Changlong Xie
2016-03-23  8:06 ` [PATCH v12 20/26] Support colo mode for qemu disk Changlong Xie
2016-03-23  8:06 ` [PATCH v12 21/26] COLO: use qemu block replication Changlong Xie
2016-03-24 15:54   ` Ian Jackson
2016-03-23  8:06 ` [PATCH v12 22/26] COLO proxy: implement setup/teardown/preresume/postresume/checkpoint Changlong Xie
2016-03-24 15:59   ` Ian Jackson
2016-03-23  8:06 ` [PATCH v12 23/26] COLO nic: implement COLO nic subkind Changlong Xie
2016-03-24 16:05   ` Ian Jackson
2016-03-25  2:29     ` Changlong Xie
2016-03-25  6:09     ` Changlong Xie
2016-03-25 12:23       ` Wei Liu
2016-03-28  3:20         ` Changlong Xie
2016-03-23  8:06 ` [PATCH v12 24/26] setup and control colo proxy on primary side Changlong Xie
2016-03-24 16:06   ` Ian Jackson
2016-03-23  8:06 ` [PATCH v12 25/26] setup and control colo proxy on secondary side Changlong Xie
2016-03-24 16:06   ` Ian Jackson
2016-03-23  8:06 ` [PATCH v12 26/26] cmdline switches and config vars to control colo-proxy Changlong Xie
2016-03-24 16:12   ` Ian Jackson
2016-03-25  2:57     ` Changlong Xie
2016-03-25  6:10     ` Changlong Xie
2016-03-25 12:29       ` Wei Liu
2016-03-28  3:21         ` Changlong Xie
2016-03-24 16:21 ` [PATCH v12 00/26] COarse-grain LOck-stepping Virtual Machines for Non-stop Service Ian Jackson
2016-03-24 16:43   ` Lars Kurth
2016-03-24 17:06   ` Wei Liu [this message]
2016-03-24 17:07     ` Ian Jackson

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