From: Mike Frysinger <vapier-aBrp7R+bbdUdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
To: Alexander Miller <alex.miller-Mmb7MZpHnFY@public.gmane.org>
Cc: "Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)"
<mtk.manpages-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
linux-man-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/7] Improve support for compressed man pages
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2016 14:30:24 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160418183024.GX5369@vapier.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160418191026.7fa8c669.alex.miller-Mmb7MZpHnFY@public.gmane.org>
[-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 2335 bytes --]
On 18 Apr 2016 19:10, Alexander Miller wrote:
> On Mon, 18 Apr 2016 13:57:54 +0100 Michael Kerrisk wrote:
> > On 04/16/2016 05:30 PM, Alexander Miller wrote:
> > > On Sat, 16 Apr 2016 00:50:58 -0400
> > > Mike Frysinger <vapier-aBrp7R+bbdUdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> > >
> > >> imo, we should just drop all compression support. distros already
> > >> handle this properly and pick whatever they want/need.
> > >
> [...]
> > >
> > > We can drop compression support or do it right - I'm fine with
> > > either option. We shouldn't keep the status quo, though.
> >
> > I'm inclined to say drop it. Would you mind putting together a
> > patch, Alex?
>
> I'm not sure what exactly we should do.
> The problem isn't really compressing the files, but the "screen"
> and "uninstall" targets.
>
> If we drop support for compressing man pages ourselves, what shall
> we do with those targets? They aren't useful for distros either.
> And they *still* might have to deal with files compressed by the
> distro's package manager (if a user tries to update manually).
> We could
> - drop "screen" and/or "uninstall", too
> (getting rid of the problem and simplifying the Makefile but
> being inconvenient for users);
> - fix them to handle man pages compressed by the distro
> (but not compressed sources, resulting in only slightly simpler
> patches than those I've posted);
> - or explicitly state "screen" (and maybe "uninstall") don't support
> compressed files. This is problematic IMO, especially since they
> are used by "make all". Moreover, "uninstall" can remove .gz/.bz2
> files but no .xz files right now; this could be changed to include
> .xz or to exclude .gz/.bz2.
imo, drop the screen target. for uninstall, that's a semi-common
idiom that packages have (and autotools supports out of the box).
keeping that sounds fine.
i don't think we need to worry about supporting `make uninstall` if
the package was installed initially by the distro -- you have to deal
with version skew of course which pretty much no one does. just make
sure `make install && make uninstall` works sanely.
wrt compression, we could be lazy/greedy here too. when we uninstall
locale.5, just rm locale.5*. in practice, this is unlikely to be an
issue ...
-mike
[-- Attachment #2: Digital signature --]
[-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 819 bytes --]
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-04-18 18:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-04-16 0:25 [PATCH 0/7] Improve support for compressed man pages Alexander Miller
[not found] ` <20160416022503.1df762cb.alex.miller-Mmb7MZpHnFY@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-16 0:45 ` [PATCH 1/7] Makefile: Use better xz options Alexander Miller
2016-04-16 0:52 ` [PATCH 2/7] Makefile: Improve uninstall target for compressed man pages Alexander Miller
2016-04-16 0:59 ` [PATCH 3/7] Makefile: Support compressed files for screen target Alexander Miller
2016-04-16 1:01 ` [PATCH 4/7] Makefile: Skip already compressed files in gz/bz2/xz targets Alexander Miller
2016-04-16 1:09 ` [PATCH 6/7] Makefile: Avoid compressing very small " Alexander Miller
2016-04-16 1:09 ` [PATCH 7/7] Makefile: Mention xz in the instructive comment at top Alexander Miller
2016-04-16 4:50 ` [PATCH 0/7] Improve support for compressed man pages Mike Frysinger
[not found] ` <20160416045058.GS6588-UgUKS2FnFs9+urZeOPWqwQ@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-16 16:30 ` Alexander Miller
[not found] ` <20160416183013.352f4ba6.alex.miller-Mmb7MZpHnFY@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-18 12:57 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
[not found] ` <5714D9D2.8050501-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-18 17:10 ` Alexander Miller
[not found] ` <20160418191026.7fa8c669.alex.miller-Mmb7MZpHnFY@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-18 18:30 ` Mike Frysinger [this message]
[not found] ` <20160418212955.498ce1dd.alex.miller@gmx.de>
[not found] ` <20160418212955.498ce1dd.alex.miller-Mmb7MZpHnFY@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-18 19:45 ` [PATCH] Makefile: Drop compression support and screen target Alexander Miller
2016-04-18 14:49 ` [PATCH 0/7] Improve support for compressed man pages Mike Frysinger
[not found] ` <20160418144918.GK5369-UgUKS2FnFs9+urZeOPWqwQ@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-18 15:08 ` walter harms
[not found] ` <5714F856.9090206-fPG8STNUNVg@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-18 15:12 ` Mike Frysinger
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=20160418183024.GX5369@vapier.lan \
--to=vapier-abrp7r+bbdudnm+yrofe0a@public.gmane.org \
--cc=alex.miller-Mmb7MZpHnFY@public.gmane.org \
--cc=linux-man-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org \
--cc=mtk.manpages-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is an external index of several public inboxes,
see mirroring instructions on how to clone and mirror
all data and code used by this external index.