From: Vinod Koul <vinod.koul-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: Andy Shevchenko
<andriy.shevchenko-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Mark Brown <broonie-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
linux-spi-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
dmaengine <dmaengine-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 1/1] spi: dw-mid: set DMA burst on memory side
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2016 19:03:52 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160419133352.GQ2274@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1460477161.6620.120.camel-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 07:06:01PM +0300, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
> On Tue, 2016-04-12 at 19:32 +0530, Vinod Koul wrote:
> > On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 02:56:35PM +0300, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
> > >
> > > On Tue, 2016-04-12 at 01:34 +0100, Mark Brown wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 07:30:12PM +0300, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
>
> > > > To optimize amount of bus writes on memory side set burst to be
> > > > > the
> > > > > same amount
> > > > > of data on both sides.
> > > > >
> > > > > + txconf.src_maxburst = 4 * dws->dma_width;
> > > > > txconf.dst_maxburst = 16;
> > > > This doesn't seem to do what the subject says (at least not
> > > > always,
> > > > it'll align for a dma_width of 4)?
> > > Thanks you didn't apply the patch.
> > >
> > > I think the approach itself is wrong.
> > >
> > > The peripheral drivers usually have no idea and shouldn't know about
> > > DMA
> > > engine memory side characteristics (bus width, bursts, etc).
> > These are typically you system characterstics, like 32 bit or 64 bit
> > bus to
> > memory and rest (burst etc) should be maximum as the data will go
> > from/to
> > dmaengine FIFO to/from memory, so you would want to push as fast as
> > possible
> >
> > Said that, maximun burst with 32bit wide should be saner value in
> > modern
> > systems.
>
> My point that peripheral driver does not and _should not_ care about
> memory side of the transfer. This is property of DMAengine controller
> and platform that has it installed.
>
> Documentation tells nothing how clients should setup _memory side_ of
> the transfer.
>
> Thus, I propose to update documentation to tell that there are two sides
> of the transfer in case of mem2dev, dev2mem, where one of them is
> _memory side_, and it's DMAengine controller's responsibility to
> rightfully set the transfer width and burst size.
Well a dmaengine maybe operating in a 32bit or 64 bit bus. Doing 64bit will
not help in former case. How do we guess?
I do agree that clients shouldn't be bothered with this
>
> I would make a patch if we would agree on this.
>
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > This should be fixed in certain DMA engine drivers.
> > >
> > > Also, as you may have noticed when we get maximum length of the
> > > segment
> > > we take into consideration what DMA device supports. Many of them
> > > report
> > > something like 2^n - 1, which is apparently unaligned and thus in
> > > the
> > > poorly written DMA driver leads to performance degradation.
> > Which Intel controller supports 2^n - 1? AFAIK the dw and idma don't.
>
> All three mentioned below takes block size as [0 .. 2 ^ number of bits
> in the register - 1]. If transfer width is 1 byte (which is calculated
> automatically now, the burst will be 1 byte on memory side!
That is not correct :)
>
> >> Looks like all Intel related DMA drivers should be fixed (HSU,
> > > iDMA64,
> > > dw_dmac).
>
>
> --
> Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
> Intel Finland Oy
>
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2016-04-11 16:30 [PATCH v1 1/1] spi: dw-mid: set DMA burst on memory side Andy Shevchenko
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2016-04-12 0:34 ` Mark Brown
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2016-04-12 11:56 ` Andy Shevchenko
[not found] ` <1460462195.6620.100.camel-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-12 14:02 ` Vinod Koul
2016-04-12 16:06 ` Andy Shevchenko
[not found] ` <1460477161.6620.120.camel-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-19 13:33 ` Vinod Koul [this message]
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