From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from bombadil.infradead.org (bombadil.infradead.org [IPv6:2001:1868:205::9]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.ozlabs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3qrP2M0d68zDq6B for ; Fri, 22 Apr 2016 02:14:03 +1000 (AEST) Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2016 18:13:54 +0200 From: Peter Zijlstra To: Pan Xinhui Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, benh@kernel.crashing.org, paulus@samba.org, mpe@ellerman.id.au, boqun.feng@gmail.com, paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com, tglx@linutronix.de Subject: Re: [PATCH V3] powerpc: Implement {cmp}xchg for u8 and u16 Message-ID: <20160421161354.GI3430@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> References: <5715D04E.9050009@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <571782F0.2020201@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <20160420142408.GF3430@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> <5718F32B.3050409@linux.vnet.ibm.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In-Reply-To: <5718F32B.3050409@linux.vnet.ibm.com> List-Id: Linux on PowerPC Developers Mail List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 11:35:07PM +0800, Pan Xinhui wrote: > yes, you are right. more load/store will be done in C code. > However such xchg_u8/u16 is just used by qspinlock now. and I did not see any performance regression. > So just wrote in C, for simple. :) Which is fine; but worthy of a note in your Changelog. > Of course I have done xchg tests. > we run code just like xchg((u8*)&v, j++); in several threads. > and the result is, > [ 768.374264] use time[1550072]ns in xchg_u8_asm > [ 768.377102] use time[2826802]ns in xchg_u8_c > > I think this is because there is one more load in C. > If possible, we can move such code in asm-generic/. So I'm not actually _that_ familiar with the PPC LL/SC implementation; but there are things a CPU can do to optimize these loops. For example, a CPU might choose to not release the exclusive hold of the line for a number of cycles, except when it passes SC or an interrupt happens. This way there's a smaller chance the SC fails and inhibits forward progress. By doing the modification outside of the LL/SC you loose such advantages. And yes, doing a !exclusive load prior to the exclusive load leads to an even bigger window where the data can get changed out from under you.