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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgunthorpe@obsidianresearch.com>
To: "Hefty, Sean" <sean.hefty@intel.com>
Cc: Sagi Grimberg <sagi@grimberg.me>,
	"Weiny, Ira" <ira.weiny@intel.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	"dledford@redhat.com" <dledford@redhat.com>,
	"bart.vanassche@sandisk.com" <bart.vanassche@sandisk.com>,
	"swise@opengridcomputing.com" <swise@opengridcomputing.com>,
	"linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org" <linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org>,
	"target-devel@vger.kernel.org" <target-devel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 02/12] IB/cma: pass the port number to ib_create_qp
Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2016 16:09:45 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160428220945.GA1542@obsidianresearch.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1828884A29C6694DAF28B7E6B8A82373AB0471EC@ORSMSX109.amr.corp.intel.com>

On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 09:53:52PM +0000, Hefty, Sean wrote:
> > I see several litmus tests for what kinds of ports can be combined
> > into a device (eg the 'protocol'):
> > 
> > 1) Various cap tests are the same on every port. Particularly the
> >    iWarp special behaviours we are talking about here.
> > 2) AHs are not port-specific, so the AH addressing format must be
> >    defined by the device. Thus IB and iWarp cannot be combined.
> > 3) Verbs APM must work across ports. So eg rocee and IB cannot be
> >    combined since they use a different CM process.
> > 
> > Multi-port really only exists to support APM, if APM doesn't work then
> > drivers don't need to create multi-port devices.
> 
> I don't know the details of the qlogic device, but it is entirely
> possible that it allows different protocols to share resources (PDs,
> CQs, IP addresses, etc.).  I think we need to be careful dismissing
> multi-protocol devices as silly, or restricting which protocols can
> run over which port.

This isn't dismissing them as silly, it is a pragmatic need in the
core code that everything associated with a PD have a minimum standard
of uniformity - and it is very clear that includes things like the
iwarp special cases and the particular format of the AHs.

For instance, even if a hardware device can run rocee and iwarp
concurrently over a single port, today we absolutely must have
different struct ib_devices for the same physical port to be able to
plug that into the core stack.

Fundamentally we have the wrong model for such hardware. When a PD is
created it should set the 'protocol' and select the compatible member
ports that belong to the PD. Cap tests and so forth should be done
against the PD, not a port or a device.

Fixing that is major surgery, and having cap tests to the port is not
helping clarify the current situation.

> Restricting all ports on a device to support all protocols is
> different than restricting a device to supporting a single protocol,
> and it affects more than APM.

What else is there that is cross port in verbs?

Jason

  reply	other threads:[~2016-04-28 22:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-04-11 21:32 generic RDMA READ/WRITE API V6 Christoph Hellwig
     [not found] ` <1460410360-13104-1-git-send-email-hch-jcswGhMUV9g@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-11 21:32   ` [PATCH 01/12] IB/mlx5: Expose correct max_sge_rd limit Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]     ` <1460410360-13104-2-git-send-email-hch-jcswGhMUV9g@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-17 13:53       ` Leon Romanovsky
     [not found]         ` <20160417135341.GC6349-2ukJVAZIZ/Y@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-17 18:06           ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-04-11 21:32   ` [PATCH 06/12] IB/core: add a simple MR pool Christoph Hellwig
2016-04-17 20:01     ` Sagi Grimberg
2016-04-19  3:19     ` Ira Weiny
2016-04-11 21:32   ` [PATCH 09/12] target: enhance and export target_alloc_sgl/target_free_sgl Christoph Hellwig
2016-04-11 21:32 ` [PATCH 02/12] IB/cma: pass the port number to ib_create_qp Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]   ` <1460410360-13104-3-git-send-email-hch-jcswGhMUV9g@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-15 17:55     ` Sagi Grimberg
2016-04-19  3:14   ` Ira Weiny
2016-04-19 17:30     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-04-19 18:38       ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]         ` <20160419183830.GB1211-jcswGhMUV9g@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-28 21:05           ` Doug Ledford
     [not found]       ` <20160419173032.GD20844-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-19 18:49         ` Sagi Grimberg
2016-04-19 19:24           ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]             ` <20160419192430.GB27028-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-19 19:41               ` Steve Wise
2016-04-19 20:05                 ` 'Christoph Hellwig'
2016-04-19 20:21                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]                   ` <20160419200555.GA2561-jcswGhMUV9g@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-19 20:26                     ` Steve Wise
2016-04-21  3:11                       ` ira.weiny
2016-04-28 19:43               ` Hefty, Sean
2016-04-28 20:07                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-04-28 21:53                   ` Hefty, Sean
2016-04-28 22:09                     ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2016-04-28 23:23                       ` Hefty, Sean
2016-04-28 23:49                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-04-28 23:25                       ` Weiny, Ira
     [not found]                         ` <2807E5FD2F6FDA4886F6618EAC48510E22EC858F-8k97q/ur5Z2krb+BlOpmy7fspsVTdybXVpNB7YpNyf8@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-29  0:01                           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2016-04-11 21:32 ` [PATCH 03/12] IB/core: allow passing mapping an offset into the SG in ib_map_mr_sg Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]   ` <1460410360-13104-4-git-send-email-hch-jcswGhMUV9g@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-15 17:56     ` Sagi Grimberg
2016-04-11 21:32 ` [PATCH 04/12] IB/core: add a helper to check for READ WITH INVALIDATE support Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]   ` <1460410360-13104-5-git-send-email-hch-jcswGhMUV9g@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-15 17:56     ` Sagi Grimberg
2016-04-19  3:15   ` Ira Weiny
2016-04-11 21:32 ` [PATCH 05/12] IB/core: refactor ib_create_qp Christoph Hellwig
2016-04-17 20:00   ` Sagi Grimberg
     [not found]   ` <1460410360-13104-6-git-send-email-hch-jcswGhMUV9g@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-19  3:08     ` Ira Weiny
2016-04-11 21:32 ` [PATCH 07/12] IB/core: add a need_inval flag to struct ib_mr Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]   ` <1460410360-13104-8-git-send-email-hch-jcswGhMUV9g@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-17 20:01     ` Sagi Grimberg
2016-04-19  3:20   ` Ira Weiny
2016-04-11 21:32 ` [PATCH 08/12] IB/core: generic RDMA READ/WRITE API Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]   ` <1460410360-13104-9-git-send-email-hch-jcswGhMUV9g@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-12 23:52     ` Bart Van Assche
     [not found]       ` <570D8A42.9040107-XdAiOPVOjttBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-13 13:50         ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-04-11 21:32 ` [PATCH 10/12] IB/srpt: convert to the " Christoph Hellwig
2016-04-13 18:57   ` Bart Van Assche
2016-04-14 13:32     ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-04-28 21:02       ` Doug Ledford
     [not found]         ` <57227A6D.4000802-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-29  6:34           ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]             ` <20160429063443.GA18893-jcswGhMUV9g@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-29 14:44               ` Doug Ledford
2016-04-11 21:32 ` [PATCH 11/12] IB/core: add RW API support for signature MRs Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]   ` <1460410360-13104-12-git-send-email-hch-jcswGhMUV9g@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-22 21:53     ` Bart Van Assche
2016-04-11 21:32 ` [PATCH 12/12] IB/isert: convert to the generic RDMA READ/WRITE API Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]   ` <1460410360-13104-13-git-send-email-hch-jcswGhMUV9g@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-28 21:04     ` Doug Ledford
2016-04-29 11:46       ` Sagi Grimberg
     [not found]         ` <572349AA.2070407-NQWnxTmZq1alnMjI0IkVqw@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-29 14:45           ` Doug Ledford
     [not found]             ` <e7959da7-79ca-0422-fbc9-9b3814516e1b-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-29 16:42               ` Leon Romanovsky
2016-04-12 18:31 ` generic RDMA READ/WRITE API V6 Steve Wise
2016-04-22 22:29 ` Bart Van Assche
     [not found]   ` <571AA5C8.4080502-XdAiOPVOjttBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2016-05-02 15:15     ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]       ` <20160502151535.GA520-jcswGhMUV9g@public.gmane.org>
2016-05-02 19:08         ` Bart Van Assche
2016-05-02 22:14           ` Bart Van Assche
2016-05-03  8:40             ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-05-03 16:10               ` Bart Van Assche
     [not found]           ` <5727A5C7.1090009-XdAiOPVOjttBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2016-05-03 14:31             ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]               ` <20160503143104.GA30342-jcswGhMUV9g@public.gmane.org>
2016-05-03 21:23                 ` Bart Van Assche
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2016-04-18 20:14 generic RDMA READ/WRITE API V7 Christoph Hellwig
2016-04-18 20:14 ` [PATCH 02/12] IB/cma: pass the port number to ib_create_qp Christoph Hellwig

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