From: Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko.sakkinen@linux.intel.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
Cc: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
"linux-doc@vger.kernel.org" <linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>,
Boris Ostrovsky <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
Mathias Krause <minipli@googlemail.com>,
Borislav Petkov <bp@suse.de>,
"open list:STAGING SUBSYSTEM" <devel@driverdev.osuosl.org>,
Wan Zongshun <Vincent.Wan@amd.com>,
Kristen Carlson Accardi <kristen@linux.intel.com>,
open list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/6] Intel Secure Guard Extensions
Date: Fri, 6 May 2016 14:23:34 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160506112334.GB24074@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160427081804.GC16991@gmail.com>
On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 10:18:05AM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
>
> * Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> wrote:
>
> > > What new syscalls would be needed for ssh to get all this support?
> >
> > This patchset or similar, plus some user code and an enclave to use.
> >
> > Sadly, on current CPUs, you also need Intel to bless the enclave. It looks like
> > new CPUs might relax that requirement.
>
> That looks like a fundamental technical limitation in my book - to an open source
> user this is essentially a very similar capability as tboot: it only allows the
> execution of externally blessed static binary blobs...
>
> I don't think we can merge any of this upstream until it's clear that the hardware
> owner running open-source user-space can also freely define/start his own secure
> enclaves without having to sign the enclave with any external party. I.e.
> self-signed enclaves should be fundamentally supported as well.
Post Skylake we will have a set of MSRs for defining your own root of
trust: IA32_SGXLEPUBKEYHASH.
Andy had a concern that you could set root of trust multiple times,
which could lead to potential attack scenarios. These MSRs are one-shot.
ENCLS will fail if the launch control is locked. There's no possiblity
to have a root of trust that is unlocked.
> Thanks,
>
> Ingo
/Jarkko
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-05-06 11:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-04-25 17:34 [PATCH 0/6] Intel Secure Guard Extensions Jarkko Sakkinen
2016-04-25 17:34 ` [PATCH 1/6] x86: add SGX definition to cpufeature Jarkko Sakkinen
2016-04-25 19:31 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-04-25 19:48 ` Andi Kleen
2016-04-25 17:34 ` [PATCH 2/6] x86, sgx: common macros and definitions Jarkko Sakkinen
2016-04-25 17:34 ` [PATCH 3/6] intel_sgx: driver for Intel Secure Guard eXtensions Jarkko Sakkinen
2016-04-25 17:55 ` Greg KH
2016-04-25 19:04 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2016-04-27 6:49 ` Jethro Beekman
2016-04-27 12:40 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2016-04-27 23:32 ` Jethro Beekman
2016-04-29 20:04 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2016-04-29 22:22 ` Jethro Beekman
2016-05-09 5:29 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2016-05-09 7:06 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2016-04-25 17:34 ` [PATCH 4/6] intel_sgx: ptrace() support for the driver Jarkko Sakkinen
2016-04-25 17:34 ` [PATCH 5/6] intel_sgx: driver documentation Jarkko Sakkinen
2016-04-25 20:01 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-05-05 22:45 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2016-05-06 0:52 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-05-06 11:35 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2016-05-06 16:24 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-04-25 17:34 ` [PATCH 6/6] intel_sgx: TODO file for the staging area Jarkko Sakkinen
2016-04-25 17:54 ` Greg KH
2016-04-25 18:56 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2016-04-25 19:06 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-04-25 20:01 ` Andi Kleen
2016-04-26 11:23 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2016-04-27 6:38 ` Jethro Beekman
2016-05-17 9:38 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2016-04-25 17:53 ` [PATCH 0/6] Intel Secure Guard Extensions Greg KH
2016-04-25 19:03 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2016-04-25 19:20 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-04-26 19:00 ` Pavel Machek
2016-04-26 19:05 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-04-26 19:41 ` Pavel Machek
2016-04-26 19:56 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-04-26 20:11 ` Pavel Machek
2016-04-26 20:59 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-04-26 21:52 ` Pavel Machek
2016-04-26 22:35 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-04-26 22:33 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-04-27 7:32 ` Pavel Machek
2016-04-27 8:18 ` Ingo Molnar
2016-04-27 14:05 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-05-06 11:23 ` Jarkko Sakkinen [this message]
2016-05-06 16:21 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-04-26 20:16 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-04-26 20:19 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-04-29 20:17 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2016-05-01 9:40 ` Pavel Machek
2016-05-02 15:37 ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2016-05-03 9:06 ` Dr. Greg Wettstein
2016-05-03 15:38 ` Pavel Machek
2016-05-04 9:04 ` Dr. Greg Wettstein
2016-05-04 11:07 ` Pavel Machek
2016-05-06 11:39 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2016-05-06 11:54 ` Thomas Gleixner
2016-05-09 5:38 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2016-05-09 6:27 ` Thomas Gleixner
2016-05-09 9:20 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2016-05-12 8:50 ` Dr. Greg Wettstein
2016-05-09 7:04 ` Greg KH
2016-05-09 9:13 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2016-05-08 9:58 ` Dr. Greg Wettstein
2016-05-09 1:32 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-05-13 9:42 ` Dr. Greg Wettstein
2016-05-13 14:09 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-05-05 22:52 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2016-05-06 7:14 ` Pavel Machek
2016-05-06 11:27 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2016-04-29 22:08 ` Jarkko Sakkinen
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