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From: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>
To: Milian Wolff <milian.wolff@kdab.com>
Cc: David Ahern <dsahern@gmail.com>, linux-perf-users@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [DONE] Re: Reordering the thread output in perf trace --summary
Date: Mon, 9 May 2016 17:12:55 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160509201255.GD13209@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3442884.78Cb9YQhj3@milian-kdab2>

Em Mon, May 09, 2016 at 08:03:30PM +0200, Milian Wolff escreveu:
> On Monday, May 9, 2016 1:25:16 PM CEST Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo wrote:
> > I'll probably make it use the sched:sched_stat_runtime data as the sort
> > key for threads if --stat is used, what do you think?
 
> You mean if `--sched` was used? I'm undecided on this. On one hand, the user 
> explicitly requests `--sched` so he probably is interested in it. On the other 
> hand, the total number of syscalls or wait time per thread may be more 
> interesting... If you use this to find contention issues e.g. then the threads 
> suffering most from contention issues will have a low runtime.
 
> Personally, I think this is yet another situation where a proper GUI could 
> solve this problem nicely. A trivial tree view with the option to adapt the 
> sorting and aggregation as needed and a way to filter out certain syscalls 
> post-collection would be really nice to have. I'm very much looking forward to 
> having more time at hands again to finally tackle this.

Yeah, we could make that dynamic, the trace case is basically 'perf
top/report' working on two events at a a time (enter/exit).

In the end I think the best way would be to get 'perf trace' to use the
hists browser like top and report :-)

I.e. we would be showing that 'perf trace --summary' in "real time", to
abuse that term a bit more :-)

We would be producing it and refreshing it over time.

A generic mechanism for matching up pairs (or more) events and present
them together with things like callchains, like we do now specifically
for sys_enter/sys_exit syscall tracepoints would be handy indeed.

But feel encouraged to try a GUI to exercise your ideas, hopefully the
existing infrastructure can get readily used for that, let us know about
any change that you think would help with that.

- Arnaldo

      reply	other threads:[~2016-05-09 20:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-05-04  9:02 Reordering the thread output in perf trace --summary Milian Wolff
2016-05-04  9:51 ` Milian Wolff
2016-05-04 21:41   ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2016-05-05 16:04     ` [DONE] " Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2016-05-09  8:28       ` Milian Wolff
2016-05-09 16:25         ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2016-05-09 18:03           ` Milian Wolff
2016-05-09 20:12             ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo [this message]

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