From: David Hildenbrand <dahi@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, "Jiri Denemark" <jdenemar@redhat.com>,
"Andreas Färber" <afaerber@suse.de>,
"Igor Mammedov" <imammedo@redhat.com>,
libvir-list@redhat.com,
"Michael Mueller" <mimu@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
"Christian Borntraeger" <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>,
"Cornelia Huck" <cornelia.huck@de.ibm.com>,
"Markus Armbruster" <armbru@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 7/9] qmp: Add runnability information to query-cpu-definitions
Date: Tue, 10 May 2016 08:32:53 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160510083253.41f9ff73@thinkpad-w530> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160509194533.GV4457@thinpad.lan.raisama.net>
> > Yes, I think so. However to really make good hints, upper layers would most
> > likely need more information about the exact problem with a property -
> > maybe something like an enum value per problematic property.
> > (UNAVAILABLE_FEATURE, VALUE_TOO_BIG, VALUE_TOO_SMALL, UNSUPPORTED_VALUE) ...
>
> If a more powerful interface is needed, we can add extra fields,
> yes. Although I'm not sure we really start providing that level
> of detail in a generic way (I guess it will depend on how much
> arch-independent code libvirt will use to handle runnability
> information).
And I would actually (later) prefer to have something like
bool too_new; (name tbd)
to cover the cpu-generation problem instead of having to expose read-only
properties just for the sake of communicating that a cpu model is simply too new
and cannot be made runnable toggling features.
>
> >
> > > > >
> > > > > We could replace this with something more generic, like:
> > > > >
> > > > > @runnability-blockers: List of attributes that prevent the CPU
> > > > > model from running in the current host.
> > > > >
> > > > > A list of QOM property names that represent CPU model
> > > > > attributes that prevent the CPU from running. If the QOM
> > > > > property is read-only, that means the CPU model can never run
> > > > > in the current host. If the property is read-write, it means
> > > > > that it MAY be possible to run the CPU model in the current
> > > > > host if that property is changed.
> > > > >
> > > > > Management software can use it as hints to suggest or choose an
> > > > > alternative for the user, or just to generate meaningful error
> > > > > messages explaining why the CPU model can't be used.
> > > > >
> > > > > (I am looking for a better name than "runnability-blockers").
> > > > >
> >
> > Not sure which approach would be better.
>
> Note that this is only a change in documentation of the new
> field, to allow it to cover extra cases without any changes in
> the interface.
>
> I also don't like the "runnability-blockers" name, but I prefer
> the new documentation I wrote above because it is more explicit
> about what exactly the field means. I plan to keep the
> "unavailable-features" name but use the above documentation text
> in the next version. Does that sound OK?
>
I like the read-only part about that, but still you should somehow clarify that
we are dealing with boolean properties a.k.a features. At least that's my
opinion.
Apart from that, this is fine with me!
David
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-05-10 6:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-05-06 18:11 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/9] Add runnability info to query-cpu-definitions Eduardo Habkost
2016-05-06 18:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/9] target-i386: Move TCG initialization check to tcg_x86_init() Eduardo Habkost
2016-05-10 14:58 ` Igor Mammedov
2016-05-06 18:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/9] target-i386: Move TCG initialization to realize time Eduardo Habkost
2016-05-10 15:10 ` Igor Mammedov
2016-05-06 18:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/9] target-i386: Call cpu_exec_init() on realize Eduardo Habkost
2016-05-10 15:15 ` Igor Mammedov
2016-05-06 18:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/9] target-i386: List CPU models using subclass list Eduardo Habkost
2016-05-06 18:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 5/9] target-i386: Move warning code outside x86_cpu_filter_features() Eduardo Habkost
2016-05-06 18:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 6/9] target-i386: Define CPUID filtering functions before x86_cpu_list() Eduardo Habkost
2016-05-06 18:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 7/9] qmp: Add runnability information to query-cpu-definitions Eduardo Habkost
2016-05-09 6:04 ` Markus Armbruster
2016-05-09 8:54 ` David Hildenbrand
2016-05-09 12:00 ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-05-09 12:05 ` David Hildenbrand
2016-05-09 12:36 ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-05-09 13:06 ` David Hildenbrand
2016-05-09 19:45 ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-05-10 6:32 ` David Hildenbrand [this message]
2016-05-10 12:03 ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-05-09 15:20 ` [Qemu-devel] [libvirt] " Eric Blake
2016-05-09 19:25 ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-05-10 8:23 ` Markus Armbruster
2016-05-10 8:31 ` Jiri Denemark
2016-05-10 11:57 ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-05-11 7:11 ` Markus Armbruster
2016-05-11 19:35 ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-05-12 6:46 ` David Hildenbrand
2016-05-12 7:19 ` Jiri Denemark
2016-05-12 11:07 ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-05-12 7:46 ` Markus Armbruster
2016-05-27 20:19 ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-05-30 9:33 ` Markus Armbruster
2016-05-31 12:01 ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-05-31 13:24 ` Markus Armbruster
2016-05-31 14:51 ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-06-03 11:38 ` David Hildenbrand
2016-05-06 18:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 8/9] target-i386: Use "-" instead of "_" on all feature names Eduardo Habkost
2016-05-10 15:19 ` Igor Mammedov
2016-05-10 17:36 ` Jiri Denemark
2016-05-24 12:17 ` Igor Mammedov
2016-05-24 12:34 ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-05-24 13:22 ` Igor Mammedov
2016-05-27 20:32 ` Eduardo Habkost
2016-05-30 8:43 ` Igor Mammedov
2016-05-06 18:11 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 9/9] target-i386: Return runnability information on query-cpu-definitions Eduardo Habkost
2016-05-09 7:24 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/9] Add runnability info to query-cpu-definitions David Hildenbrand
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