From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Peter Hurley <peter@hurleysoftware.com>,
Waiman Long <Waiman.Long@hpe.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Davidlohr Bueso <dave@stgolabs.net>,
Jason Low <jason.low2@hp.com>, Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
Scott J Norton <scott.norton@hpe.com>,
Douglas Hatch <doug.hatch@hpe.com>,
kcc@google.com, dvyukov@google.com, dhowells@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] locking/rwsem: Add reader-owned state to the owner field
Date: Wed, 18 May 2016 10:26:06 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160518172606.GU3528@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160518110555.GE3193@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net>
On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 01:05:55PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 12:46:07PM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > Actually, if you show a case where this makes a visible system-wide
> > difference, you could create a set of primitives for #1 below. Have
> > a compiler version check, and if it is an old compiler, map them to
> > READ_ONCE() and WRITE_ONCE(), otherwise as follows, though preferably
> > with better names:
> >
> > #define READ_NOTEAR(x) __atomic_load_n(&(x), __ATOMIC_RELAXED)
> > #define WRITE_NOTEAR(x, v) __atomic_store_n(&(x), (v), __ATOMIC_RELAXED)
> >
> > The ambiguity between "no tear" and "not ear" should help motivate a
> > better choice of name.
>
> Alternatively, could we try and talk to our GCC friends to make sure GCC
> doesn't tear loads/stores irrespective of what the C language spec
> allows?
Interestingly enough, they used to make that guarantee, but removed it
when C11 showed up.
Me, I would feel better explicitly telling the compiler what I needed.
It is all too easy for bugs to slip in otherwise, especially when the
gcc guys are adding exciting new optimizations.
Thanx, Paul
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-05-18 17:26 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-05-07 0:20 [PATCH v2] locking/rwsem: Add reader-owned state to the owner field Waiman Long
2016-05-07 4:56 ` Ingo Molnar
2016-05-08 3:04 ` Waiman Long
2016-05-09 8:27 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-05-10 2:24 ` Waiman Long
2016-05-10 7:02 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-05-09 18:44 ` Jason Low
2016-05-10 13:03 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2016-05-11 22:04 ` Peter Hurley
2016-05-12 20:15 ` Waiman Long
2016-05-12 21:27 ` Peter Hurley
2016-05-12 23:13 ` Waiman Long
2016-05-13 15:07 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-05-13 17:58 ` Peter Hurley
2016-05-15 14:47 ` Waiman Long
2016-05-16 11:09 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-05-16 12:17 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-05-16 14:17 ` Peter Hurley
2016-05-16 17:22 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-05-17 19:46 ` Peter Hurley
2016-05-17 19:53 ` Peter Hurley
2016-05-16 17:50 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-05-17 19:15 ` Peter Hurley
2016-05-17 19:46 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-05-18 11:05 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-05-18 15:56 ` Waiman Long
2016-05-18 17:28 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-05-18 17:26 ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2016-05-19 9:00 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-05-19 13:43 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-05-19 1:37 ` Dave Chinner
2016-05-19 8:32 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-05-20 22:56 ` Waiman Long
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