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From: Boris Brezillon <boris.brezillon@free-electrons.com>
To: Brian Norris <computersforpeace@gmail.com>
Cc: Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>,
	linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org,
	David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/4] mtd: introduce the mtd_pairing_scheme concept
Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2016 08:54:08 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160611085408.74b2295f@bbrezillon> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160611021715.GH89390@google.com>

On Fri, 10 Jun 2016 19:17:15 -0700
Brian Norris <computersforpeace@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 12:01:18PM +0200, Boris Brezillon wrote:
> > MLC and TLC NAND devices are using NAND cells exposing more than one bit,
> > but instead of attaching all the bits in a given cell to a single NAND
> > page, each bit is usually attached to a different page. This concept is
> > called 'page pairing', and has significant impacts on the flash storage
> > usage.
> > The main problem showed by these devices is that interrupting a page
> > program operation may not only corrupt the page we are programming
> > but also the page it is paired with, hence the need to expose to MTD
> > users the pairing scheme information.
> > 
> > The pairing APIs allows one to query pairing information attached to a
> > given page (here called wunit), or the other way around (the wunit
> > pointed by pairing information).  
> 
> Why the "write unit" terminology? Is a write unit ever different from a
> page?

Because there's no concept of pages at the MTD level. The page size is
actually translated into writesize, so I thought keeping the same
wording for pairing scheme would be more appropriate. Not sure other
device types will need this pairing scheme feature though.

> 
> > It also provides several helpers to help the conversion between absolute
> > offsets and wunits, and query the number of pairing groups.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Boris Brezillon <boris.brezillon@free-electrons.com>
> > ---
> >  drivers/mtd/mtdcore.c   | 62 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >  drivers/mtd/mtdpart.c   |  1 +
> >  include/linux/mtd/mtd.h | 64 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >  3 files changed, 127 insertions(+)
> > 
> > diff --git a/drivers/mtd/mtdcore.c b/drivers/mtd/mtdcore.c
> > index e3936b8..315adc0 100644
> > --- a/drivers/mtd/mtdcore.c
> > +++ b/drivers/mtd/mtdcore.c
> > @@ -376,6 +376,68 @@ static int mtd_reboot_notifier(struct notifier_block *n, unsigned long state,
> >  }
> >  
> >  /**
> > + *	mtd_wunit_to_pairing_info - get pairing information of a wunit
> > + *	@mtd: pointer to new MTD device info structure
> > + *	@wunit: the write unit we are interrested in
> > + *	@info: pairing information struct
> > + *
> > + *	Retrieve pairing information associated to the wunit.
> > + *	This is mainly useful when dealing with MLC/TLC NANDs where pages
> > + *	can be paired together, and where programming a page may influence
> > + *	the page it is paired with.
> > + *	The notion of page is replaced by the term wunit (write-unit).
> > + */
> > +void mtd_wunit_to_pairing_info(struct mtd_info *mtd, int wunit,
> > +			       struct mtd_pairing_info *info)
> > +{
> > +	if (!mtd->pairing || !mtd->pairing->get_info) {
> > +		info->group = 0;
> > +		info->pair = wunit;
> > +	} else {
> > +		mtd->pairing->get_info(mtd, wunit, info);
> > +	}
> > +}
> > +EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(mtd_wunit_to_pairing_info);
> > +
> > +/**
> > + *	mtd_wunit_to_pairing_info - get wunit from pairing information
> > + *	@mtd: pointer to new MTD device info structure
> > + *	@info: pairing information struct
> > + *
> > + *	Return a positive number representing the wunit associated to the
> > + *	info struct, or a negative error code.
> > + */
> > +int mtd_pairing_info_to_wunit(struct mtd_info *mtd,
> > +			      const struct mtd_pairing_info *info)
> > +{
> > +	if (!mtd->pairing || !mtd->pairing->get_info) {
> > +		if (info->group)
> > +			return -EINVAL;
> > +
> > +		return info->pair;
> > +	}
> > +
> > +	return mtd->pairing->get_wunit(mtd, info);
> > +}
> > +EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(mtd_pairing_info_to_wunit);
> > +
> > +/**
> > + *	mtd_pairing_groups_per_eb - get the number of pairing groups per erase
> > + *				    block
> > + *	@mtd: pointer to new MTD device info structure
> > + *
> > + *	Return the number of pairing groups per erase block.
> > + */
> > +int mtd_pairing_groups_per_eb(struct mtd_info *mtd)
> > +{
> > +	if (!mtd->pairing || !mtd->pairing->ngroups)
> > +		return 1;
> > +
> > +	return mtd->pairing->ngroups;
> > +}
> > +EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(mtd_pairing_groups_per_eb);
> > +
> > +/**
> >   *	add_mtd_device - register an MTD device
> >   *	@mtd: pointer to new MTD device info structure
> >   *
> > diff --git a/drivers/mtd/mtdpart.c b/drivers/mtd/mtdpart.c
> > index 1f13e32..e32a0ac 100644
> > --- a/drivers/mtd/mtdpart.c
> > +++ b/drivers/mtd/mtdpart.c
> > @@ -397,6 +397,7 @@ static struct mtd_part *allocate_partition(struct mtd_info *master,
> >  	slave->mtd.oobsize = master->oobsize;
> >  	slave->mtd.oobavail = master->oobavail;
> >  	slave->mtd.subpage_sft = master->subpage_sft;
> > +	slave->mtd.pairing = master->pairing;
> >  
> >  	slave->mtd.name = name;
> >  	slave->mtd.owner = master->owner;
> > diff --git a/include/linux/mtd/mtd.h b/include/linux/mtd/mtd.h
> > index 29a1706..4961092 100644
> > --- a/include/linux/mtd/mtd.h
> > +++ b/include/linux/mtd/mtd.h
> > @@ -127,6 +127,36 @@ struct mtd_ooblayout_ops {
> >  		    struct mtd_oob_region *oobfree);
> >  };
> >  
> > +/**
> > + * struct mtd_pairing_info - Page pairing information
> > + *
> > + * @pair: represent the pair index in the paired pages table.For example, if  
> 
> Needs a space after the period.

Yep.

> 
> > + *	  page 0 and page 2 are paired together they form the first pair.  
> 
> This example doesn't help. What would the value of @pair be in this
> case? "First pair" doesn't translate to an integer unambiguously.

pair 0

> 
> > + * @group: the group represent the bit position in the cell. For example,
> > + *	   page 0 uses bit 0 and is thus part of group 0.  
> 
> I can barely understand what your description for these two fields
> means. I think you need a much more verbose overall description for the
> struct (some here, and maybe more in mtd_pairing_scheme?), and some
> better specifics about what values to expect in the fields. For example
> you might include language like: "this struct describes a single write
> unit in terms of its page pairing geometry."
> 
> Also, the "pair" term (and examples you use) seem to imply 2-cell MLC,
> whereas I believe you're trying to handle TLC too. I don't know if we
> should drop the "pair" term, or just explain it better.

I clearly have some problems with the words I've chosen, but those terms
were extracted from NAND datasheets (group and pair), and I think
keeping the same wording help people converting datasheet specs into
pairing scheme implementation.

Any suggestions to replace those 2 words?

> 
> You also need to steal more documentation from your commit message and
> cover and put it somewhere, whether it's the comments or
> Documentation/mtd/nand/.

Okay.

> 
> > + */
> > +struct mtd_pairing_info {
> > +	int pair;
> > +	int group;
> > +};
> > +
> > +/**
> > + * struct mtd_pairing_scheme - Page pairing information
> > + *
> > + * @ngroups: number of groups. Should be related to the number of bits
> > + *	     per cell.
> > + * @get_info: get the paring info of a given write-unit (ie page). This
> > + *	      function should fill the info struct passed in argument.
> > + * @get_page: convert paring information into a write-unit (page) number.
> > + */
> > +struct mtd_pairing_scheme {
> > +	int ngroups;
> > +	void (*get_info)(struct mtd_info *mtd, int wunit,
> > +			 struct mtd_pairing_info *info);
> > +	int (*get_wunit)(struct mtd_info *mtd,
> > +			 const struct mtd_pairing_info *info);
> > +};
> > +
> >  struct module;	/* only needed for owner field in mtd_info */
> >  
> >  struct mtd_info {
> > @@ -188,6 +218,9 @@ struct mtd_info {
> >  	/* OOB layout description */
> >  	const struct mtd_ooblayout_ops *ooblayout;
> >  
> > +	/* NAND pairing scheme, only provided for MLC/TLC NANDs */
> > +	const struct mtd_pairing_scheme *pairing;
> > +
> >  	/* the ecc step size. */
> >  	unsigned int ecc_step_size;
> >  
> > @@ -312,6 +345,32 @@ static inline int mtd_oobavail(struct mtd_info *mtd, struct mtd_oob_ops *ops)
> >  	return ops->mode == MTD_OPS_AUTO_OOB ? mtd->oobavail : mtd->oobsize;
> >  }
> >  
> > +static inline int mtd_offset_to_wunit(struct mtd_info *mtd, loff_t offs)
> > +{
> > +	if (mtd->erasesize_mask)
> > +		offs &= mtd->erasesize_mask;
> > +	else
> > +		offs = offs % mtd->erasesize;  
> 
> Since you're doing the in-place operators everywhere else, why not
> 
> 		offs %= mtd->erasesize;
> 
> ?
> 
> > +
> > +	if (mtd->writesize_shift)
> > +		offs >>= mtd->writesize_shift;
> > +	else
> > +		offs %= mtd->writesize;  
> 
> Uhh, this is wrong. You meant divide, not mod, right? And in that case,
> why not just use:
> 
> 	return mtd_div_by_ws(offs, mtd);
> 
> ? Or even save yourself most of the trouble and replace the whole
> function with this:
> 
> 	return mtd_mod_by_eb(mtd_div_by_ws(offs, mtd), mtd);

Definitely better, thanks.




-- 
Boris Brezillon, Free Electrons
Embedded Linux and Kernel engineering
http://free-electrons.com

  reply	other threads:[~2016-06-11  6:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-04-25 10:01 [PATCH 0/4] mtd: add support for pairing scheme description Boris Brezillon
2016-04-25 10:01 ` [PATCH 1/4] mtd: introduce the mtd_pairing_scheme concept Boris Brezillon
2016-06-11  2:17   ` Brian Norris
2016-06-11  6:54     ` Boris Brezillon [this message]
2016-06-13  5:55       ` Brian Norris
2016-06-13  6:22         ` Brian Norris
2016-06-13  6:37           ` Boris Brezillon
2016-04-25 10:01 ` [PATCH 2/4] mtd: nand: implement two pairing scheme Boris Brezillon
2016-04-25 10:01 ` [PATCH 3/4] mtd: nand: add a pairing field to nand_flash_dev Boris Brezillon
2016-04-25 10:01 ` [PATCH 4/4] mtd: nand: H27UCG8T2ATR: point to the correct pairing scheme implementation Boris Brezillon
2016-04-28  8:04 ` [PATCH 0/4] mtd: add support for pairing scheme description Richard Weinberger
2016-06-11  2:16 ` Brian Norris
2016-06-11  6:45   ` Boris Brezillon
2016-06-13  5:54     ` Brian Norris
2016-06-13  6:33       ` Boris Brezillon

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