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From: David Gibson <david-xT8FGy+AXnRB3Ne2BGzF6laj5H9X9Tb+@public.gmane.org>
To: Phil Elwell <philip.j.elwell-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: "Maxime Ripard"
	<maxime.ripard-wi1+55ScJUtKEb57/3fJTNBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>,
	"Pantelis Antoniou"
	<pantelis.antoniou-OWPKS81ov/FWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>,
	"Simon Glass" <sjg-F7+t8E8rja9g9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>,
	"Boris Brezillon"
	<boris.brezillon-wi1+55ScJUtKEb57/3fJTNBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>,
	"Alexander Kaplan" <alex-MflLfwwFzuz+yO7R74ARew@public.gmane.org>,
	"Thomas Petazzoni"
	<thomas.petazzoni-wi1+55ScJUtKEb57/3fJTNBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>,
	devicetree-compiler-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	"Antoine Ténart"
	<antoine.tenart-wi1+55ScJUtKEb57/3fJTNBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>,
	"Stefan Agner" <stefan-XLVq0VzYD2Y@public.gmane.org>,
	devicetree-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 6/6] libfdt: Add overlay application function
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2016 14:45:24 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160713044523.GF14615@voom.fritz.box> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPhXvM5nCbP81ujx3dhy9GvibdoBDy+N8EuArJj2-RFKO3ixfQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>

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On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 04:07:49PM +0100, Phil Elwell wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 12, 2016 at 3:34 PM, David Gibson
> <david-xT8FGy+AXnRB3Ne2BGzF6laj5H9X9Tb+@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> > On Mon, Jul 11, 2016 at 09:20:44PM +0100, Phil Elwell wrote:
> >> On 11/07/2016 20:56, Maxime Ripard wrote:
> > [snip]
> >
> >> > +static int overlay_merge(void *fdt, void *fdto)
> >> > +{
> >> > +   int fragment;
> >> > +
> >> > +   fdt_for_each_subnode(fragment, fdto, 0) {
> >> > +           int overlay;
> >> > +           int target;
> >> > +           int ret;
> >> > +
> >> > +           target = overlay_get_target(fdt, fdto, fragment);
> >> > +           if (target < 0)
> >> > +                   continue;
> >> > +
> >> > +           overlay = fdt_subnode_offset(fdto, fragment, "__overlay__");
> >> > +           if (overlay < 0)
> >> > +                   return overlay;
> >
> >> Why does the absence of a target cause a fragment to be ignored but
> >> the absence of an "__overlay__" property cause the merging to be
> >> abandoned with an error? Can't we just ignore fragments that aren't
> >> recognised?
> >
> > So, I had the same question.  But fragments we can't make sense MUST
> > cause failures, and not be silently ignored.
> >
> > An incompletely applied overlay is almost certainly going to cause you
> > horrible grief at some point, so you absolutely want to know early if
> > your overlay is in a format your tool doesn't understand.
> 
> Cards on the table time - at Raspberry Pi we've found it convenient to
> selectively enable or disable fragments within an overlay based on
> user-supplied parameters. The way I've implemented this is by using
> "__dormant__" as an antonym to "__overlay__" (partly chosen because it
> is the same length), and then pre-processing the overlay before
> applying it. This scheme works with the kernel overlay support and our
> firmware loader (obviously).

Ok, if you want that feature, let's invent a mechanism specifically
for conditionally disabling chunks, rather than using a side-effect
which will break horribly as soon as we extend the overlay format.

Alternatively you could just use fdt_del_node() or fdt_nop_node() to
remove the fragments you don't wish to apply.

> Although I could invent a similar scheme that uses antonyms of
> "target" and "target-path", I don't see why this is inherently safer.



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  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-07-13  4:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-07-11 19:56 [PATCH v2 0/6] libfdt: Add support for device tree overlays Maxime Ripard
     [not found] ` <20160711195623.12840-1-maxime.ripard-wi1+55ScJUtKEb57/3fJTNBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-11 19:56   ` [PATCH v2 1/6] libfdt: Add a subnodes iterator macro Maxime Ripard
     [not found]     ` <20160711195623.12840-2-maxime.ripard-wi1+55ScJUtKEb57/3fJTNBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-12  1:52       ` David Gibson
2016-07-11 19:56   ` [PATCH v2 2/6] libfdt: Add iterator over properties Maxime Ripard
     [not found]     ` <20160711195623.12840-3-maxime.ripard-wi1+55ScJUtKEb57/3fJTNBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-12  1:53       ` David Gibson
     [not found]         ` <20160712015335.GO16355-RXTfZT5YzpxwFLYp8hBm2A@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-12  1:57           ` Robert P. J. Day
     [not found]             ` <alpine.LFD.2.20.1607111856210.14522-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-12  2:29               ` David Gibson
2016-07-11 19:56   ` [PATCH v2 3/6] libfdt: Add max phandle retrieval function Maxime Ripard
     [not found]     ` <20160711195623.12840-4-maxime.ripard-wi1+55ScJUtKEb57/3fJTNBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-12  2:02       ` David Gibson
2016-07-11 19:56   ` [PATCH v2 4/6] libfdt: Add fdt_getprop_namelen_w Maxime Ripard
     [not found]     ` <20160711195623.12840-5-maxime.ripard-wi1+55ScJUtKEb57/3fJTNBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-12  2:03       ` David Gibson
2016-07-11 19:56   ` [PATCH v2 5/6] libfdt: Add fdt_setprop_inplace_namelen_partial Maxime Ripard
     [not found]     ` <20160711195623.12840-6-maxime.ripard-wi1+55ScJUtKEb57/3fJTNBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-12 11:45       ` David Gibson
     [not found]         ` <20160712114520.GB16355-RXTfZT5YzpxwFLYp8hBm2A@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-18 13:45           ` Maxime Ripard
2016-07-21 13:04             ` David Gibson
2016-07-11 19:56   ` [PATCH v2 6/6] libfdt: Add overlay application function Maxime Ripard
     [not found]     ` <20160711195623.12840-7-maxime.ripard-wi1+55ScJUtKEb57/3fJTNBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-11 20:20       ` Phil Elwell
     [not found]         ` <ed025e59-ddb3-0309-b2da-f6c2d1fa95d0-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-12 14:34           ` David Gibson
     [not found]             ` <20160712143404.GD16355-RXTfZT5YzpxwFLYp8hBm2A@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-12 15:07               ` Phil Elwell
     [not found]                 ` <CAPhXvM5nCbP81ujx3dhy9GvibdoBDy+N8EuArJj2-RFKO3ixfQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-13  4:45                   ` David Gibson [this message]
2016-07-13  8:38               ` Maxime Ripard
2016-07-13 15:07                 ` David Gibson
     [not found]                   ` <20160713150745.GG14615-RXTfZT5YzpxwFLYp8hBm2A@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-13 19:37                     ` Maxime Ripard
2016-07-14  8:30                       ` David Gibson
     [not found]                         ` <20160714083058.GN14615-RXTfZT5YzpxwFLYp8hBm2A@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-15  9:18                           ` Phil Elwell
     [not found]                             ` <CAPhXvM53bMUypbUYSgC6BbAar2=dD8Y=Ktpu3LQzRTGx=yJesQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-18  4:39                               ` David Gibson
2016-07-18 13:07                               ` Maxime Ripard
2016-07-12 14:31       ` David Gibson
     [not found]         ` <20160712143120.GC16355-RXTfZT5YzpxwFLYp8hBm2A@public.gmane.org>
2016-07-13 20:12           ` Maxime Ripard
2016-07-14  9:02             ` David Gibson

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