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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Dmitry Shmidt <dimitrysh@google.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Rom Lemarchand <romlem@google.com>,
	Colin Cross <ccross@google.com>, Todd Kjos <tkjos@google.com>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: Severe performance regression w/ 4.4+ on Android due to cgroup locking changes
Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2016 14:05:56 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160713210556.GP7094@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAH7ZN-yMyaF+UYKajVhhMdoq3Yn+GHFDmsO01sFHQsv_oVUbNw@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 02:01:27PM -0700, Dmitry Shmidt wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 1:52 PM, Paul E. McKenney
> <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 10:26:57PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> >> On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 04:18:23PM -0400, Tejun Heo wrote:
> >> > Hello, John.
> >> >
> >> > On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 01:13:11PM -0700, John Stultz wrote:
> >> > > On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 11:33 AM, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org> wrote:
> >> > > > On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 02:21:02PM -0400, Tejun Heo wrote:
> >> > > >> One interesting thing to try would be replacing it with a regular
> >> > > >> non-percpu rwsem and see how it behaves.  That should easily tell us
> >> > > >> whether this is from actual contention or artifacts from percpu_rwsem
> >> > > >> implementation.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > So, something like the following.  Can you please see whether this
> >> > > > makes any difference?
> >> > >
> >> > > Yea. So this brings it down for me closer to what we're seeing with
> >> > > the Dmitry's patch reverting the two problematic commits, usually
> >> > > 10-50us with one early spike at 18ms.
> >> >
> >> > So, it's a percpu rwsem issue then.  I haven't really followed the
> >> > perpcpu rwsem changes closely.  Oleg, are multi-milisec delay expected
> >> > on down write expected with the current implementation of
> >> > percpu_rwsem?
> >>
> >> There is a synchronize_sched() in there, so sorta. That thing is heavily
> >> geared towards readers, as is the only 'sane' choice for global locks.
> >
> > Then one diagnostic step to take would be to replace that
> > synchronize_sched() with synchronize_sched_expedited(), and see if that
> > gets rid of the delays.
> >
> > Not a particularly real-time-friendly fix, but certainly a good check
> > on our various assumptions.
> 
> All delays <200 us, but one that is 3 ms.

That does indicate that synchronize_sched() is the latency culprit.

Tejun's lglock-like approach seems to me to be the next thing to try.

                                                        Thanx, Paul

> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > diff --git a/kernel/rcu/sync.c b/kernel/rcu/sync.c
> > index be922c9f3d37..211acddc7e21 100644
> > --- a/kernel/rcu/sync.c
> > +++ b/kernel/rcu/sync.c
> > @@ -38,19 +38,19 @@ static const struct {
> >  #endif
> >  } gp_ops[] = {
> >         [RCU_SYNC] = {
> > -               .sync = synchronize_rcu,
> > +               .sync = synchronize_rcu_expedited,
> >                 .call = call_rcu,
> >                 .wait = rcu_barrier,
> >                 __INIT_HELD(rcu_read_lock_held)
> >         },
> >         [RCU_SCHED_SYNC] = {
> > -               .sync = synchronize_sched,
> > +               .sync = synchronize_sched_expedited,
> >                 .call = call_rcu_sched,
> >                 .wait = rcu_barrier_sched,
> >                 __INIT_HELD(rcu_read_lock_sched_held)
> >         },
> >         [RCU_BH_SYNC] = {
> > -               .sync = synchronize_rcu_bh,
> > +               .sync = synchronize_rcu_bh_expedited,
> >                 .call = call_rcu_bh,
> >                 .wait = rcu_barrier_bh,
> >                 __INIT_HELD(rcu_read_lock_bh_held)
> >
> 

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-07-13 21:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-07-13  0:00 Severe performance regression w/ 4.4+ on Android due to cgroup locking changes John Stultz
2016-07-13  8:21 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-07-13 14:42   ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-07-13 18:13     ` Dmitry Shmidt
2016-07-13 18:32       ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-07-13 18:21 ` Tejun Heo
2016-07-13 18:33   ` Tejun Heo
2016-07-13 20:13     ` John Stultz
2016-07-13 20:18       ` Tejun Heo
2016-07-13 20:26         ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-07-13 20:39           ` Tejun Heo
2016-07-13 20:51             ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-07-13 21:01               ` Tejun Heo
2016-07-13 21:03               ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-07-13 21:05                 ` Tejun Heo
2016-07-13 21:18                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-07-13 21:42                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-07-13 21:46                       ` John Stultz
2016-07-13 22:17                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-07-13 22:39                           ` John Stultz
2016-07-13 23:02                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-07-13 23:04                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-07-14 11:35                                 ` Tejun Heo
2016-07-14 12:04                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-07-14 12:08                                     ` Tejun Heo
2016-07-14 12:20                                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-07-14 15:07                                         ` Tejun Heo
2016-07-14 15:24                                           ` Tejun Heo
2016-07-14 16:32                                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-07-14 17:34                                             ` Oleg Nesterov
2016-07-14 16:54                               ` John Stultz
2016-07-13 22:25                       ` John Stultz
2016-07-13 22:01                     ` Tejun Heo
2016-07-13 22:33                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-07-14  6:49                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-07-14 11:20                         ` Tejun Heo
2016-07-14 12:11                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-07-14 15:14                             ` Tejun Heo
2016-07-14 13:18               ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-07-14 14:14                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-07-14 14:58                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2016-07-14 16:14                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-07-14 16:37                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-07-14 17:05                     ` Oleg Nesterov
2016-07-14 16:23                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-07-14 16:45                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-07-14 17:15                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-07-14 16:43                 ` John Stultz
2016-07-14 16:49                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-07-14 17:02                     ` John Stultz
2016-07-14 17:13                       ` Oleg Nesterov
2016-07-14 17:30                         ` John Stultz
2016-07-14 17:41                           ` Oleg Nesterov
2016-07-14 17:51                             ` John Stultz
2016-07-14 18:09                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2016-07-14 18:36                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-07-14 19:35                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-07-13 20:57             ` John Stultz
2016-07-13 20:52           ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-07-13 20:57             ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-07-13 21:08               ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-07-13 21:01             ` Dmitry Shmidt
2016-07-13 21:03               ` John Stultz
2016-07-13 21:05               ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2016-07-13 20:31     ` Dmitry Shmidt
2016-07-13 20:44   ` Colin Cross
2016-07-13 20:54     ` Tejun Heo

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