From: Davidlohr Bueso <dave@stgolabs.net>
To: Imre Deak <imre.deak@intel.com>
Cc: Waiman Long <waiman.long@hpe.com>, Jason Low <jason.low2@hpe.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Chris Wilson <chris@chris-wilson.co.uk>,
Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Avoid mutex starvation when optimistic spinning is disabled
Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2016 12:26:06 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160722192606.GC1881@linux-80c1.suse> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1469212184.9353.15.camel@intel.com>
On Fri, 22 Jul 2016, Imre Deak wrote:
>On Fri, 2016-07-22 at 11:03 -0700, Davidlohr Bueso wrote:
>> On Fri, 22 Jul 2016, Waiman Long wrote:
>>
>> > I think making mutex_trylock() fail maybe a bit too far. Do we
>> > really
>> > have any real workload that cause starvation problem because of
>> > that.
>> > Code that does mutex_trylock() in a loop can certainly cause lock
>> > starvation, but it is not how mutex_trylock() is supposed to be
>> > used.
>> > We can't build in safeguard for all the possible abuses of the
>> > mutex
>> > APIs.
>>
>> True, and that's actually why I think that 'fixing' the
>> !SPIN_ON_OWNER case
>> is a bit too far in the first place: most of the archs that will care
>> about
>> this already have ARCH_SUPPORTS_ATOMIC_RMW. The extra code for
>> dealing with
>> this is not worth it imo.
>
>SPIN_ON_OWNER is also disabled in case of DEBUG_MUTEXES, which is the
>config where I wanted to avoid starvation in the first place.
Well yes, but know of course that that option is even less common than
archs with non atomic Rmw.
Thanks,
Davidlohr
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-07-22 19:26 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-07-18 16:16 [RFC] locking/mutex: Fix starvation of sleeping waiters Imre Deak
2016-07-18 17:15 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-07-18 17:47 ` Jason Low
2016-07-19 16:53 ` Imre Deak
2016-07-19 22:57 ` Jason Low
2016-07-19 23:04 ` [RFC] Avoid mutex starvation when optimistic spinning is disabled Jason Low
2016-07-20 4:39 ` Jason Low
2016-07-20 13:29 ` Imre Deak
2016-07-21 20:57 ` Jason Low
2016-07-22 17:55 ` Waiman Long
2016-07-22 18:03 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2016-07-22 18:29 ` Imre Deak
2016-07-22 19:26 ` Davidlohr Bueso [this message]
2016-07-22 19:53 ` Imre Deak
2016-07-20 18:37 ` Waiman Long
2016-07-21 22:29 ` Jason Low
2016-07-22 9:34 ` Imre Deak
2016-07-22 18:44 ` Jason Low
2016-07-22 18:01 ` Waiman Long
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