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From: Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky@gmail.com>
To: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
Cc: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>,
	Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky.work@gmail.com>,
	Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky@gmail.com>,
	Jan Kara <jack@suse.com>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@i-love.sakura.ne.jp>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Byungchul Park <byungchul.park@lge.com>,
	vlevenetz@mm-sol.com,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v10 1/2] printk: Make printk() completely async
Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2016 14:24:30 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160820052430.GA695@swordfish> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160819190007.GA8275@quack2.suse.cz>

On (08/19/16 21:00), Jan Kara wrote:
> > > depending on .config BUG() may never return back -- passing control
> > > to do_exit(), so printk_deferred_exit() won't be executed. thus we
> > > probably need to have a per-cpu variable that would indicate that
> > > we are in deferred_bug. hm... but do we really need deferred BUG()
> > > in the first place?
> > 
> > Good question. I am not aware of any BUG_ON() that would be called from
> > wake_up_process() but it is hard to check everything.
> > 
> > A conservative approach would be to force synchronous printk from
> > BUG_ON().
> 
> Just a quick thought: Cannot we just do printk_deferred_enter() when we are
> about to call into the scheduler from printk code and printk_deferred_exit()
> when leaving it? That would look like the least error-prone way how
> handling this kind of recursion...

interesting idea.
printk_deferred_enter() increments preempt count, so there may be additional
obstacles and, as a result, ad-hocs, that scheduler people will sincerely hate.
need to think more.

> OTOH there's also the other possible direction for the recursion when we
> are in the scheduler, holding some scheduler locks, decide to WARN which
> enters printk, that ends up calling wake_up_process() which deadlocks
> on scheduler locks... I don't see how to handle this type of recursion
> inside the printk code itself easily and so far the answer was - use
> printk_deferred() in the scheduler and don't use WARN...

the recursion detection is really tricky, yes. it seems (and I haven't
thought of it good enough) to be a bit simpler when we operate in async
printk mode, because we remove this uncontrollable console_unlock().
so we can do something like this:

vprintk_emit(....)
{
	local_irq_save();

	if (this_cpu_read(in_printk)) {
		log_store(BUG: printk recursion!");
		goto out;
	}

	this_cpu_write(in_printk) = 1;

	raw_spin_lock(&logbuf_lock);
	log_store();
	raw_spin_unlock(&logbuf_lock);

	if (!in_sched) {
		if (console_loglevel != CONSOLE_LOGLEVEL_MOTORMOUTH &&
				can_printk_async()) {
			printk_kthread_need_flush_console = true;
			wake_up_process(printk_kthread);
		}
	}

	this_cpu_write(in_printk) = 0;
out:
	local_irq_restore();
}

async printk mode from this point of view is sort of atomic.
we can even set different values of per-CPU `in_printk' on various
stages of printk, which will permit to have better recursion handling.
for example, if we recurse from raw_spin_unlock(&logbuf_lock) then we
must re-init logbuf_lock, because it's 99% corrupted... and so on. but
I haven't really thought of it yet. it obviously doesn't work for sync
printk mode.

> Hum, maybe we could add lockdep annotation to a WARN_ON and BUG_ON macros so
> that it would grab and release console_sem (even if the condition is false).
> That way we'd get lockdep splats for all the possible WARN_ON and BUG_ON
> calls that could deadlock.

hm.

	-ss

  reply	other threads:[~2016-08-20  5:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-04-04 16:57 [PATCH v10 0/2] printk: Make printk() completely async Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-04-04 16:57 ` [PATCH v10 1/2] " Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-04-04 22:51   ` Andrew Morton
2016-04-05  5:17     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-04-05  7:39       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-04-06  0:19         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-04-06  8:27     ` Jan Kara
2016-04-07  9:48       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-04-07 12:08         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-04-07 13:15           ` Jan Kara
2016-08-10 21:17       ` Viresh Kumar
2016-08-12  9:44         ` Petr Mladek
2016-08-15 14:26           ` Vladislav Levenetz
2016-08-16  9:04             ` Petr Mladek
2016-08-18  2:27           ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-08-18  9:33             ` Petr Mladek
2016-08-18  9:51               ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-08-18 10:56                 ` Petr Mladek
2016-08-19  6:32                   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-08-19  9:54                     ` Petr Mladek
2016-08-19 19:00                       ` Jan Kara
2016-08-20  5:24                         ` Sergey Senozhatsky [this message]
2016-08-22  4:15                           ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-08-23 12:19                             ` Petr Mladek
2016-08-24  1:33                               ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-08-25 21:10                             ` Petr Mladek
2016-08-26  1:56                               ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-08-26  8:20                                 ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-08-30  9:29                                 ` Petr Mladek
2016-08-31  2:31                                   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-08-31  9:38                                     ` Petr Mladek
2016-08-31 12:52                                       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-09-01  8:58                                         ` Petr Mladek
2016-09-02  7:58                                           ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-09-02 15:15                                             ` Petr Mladek
2016-09-06  7:16                                               ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2016-08-23 13:03                           ` Petr Mladek
2016-08-23 13:48                         ` Petr Mladek
2016-04-04 16:57 ` [PATCH v10 2/2] printk: Make wake_up_klogd_work_func() async Sergey Senozhatsky
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2016-08-23  3:32 [PATCH v10 1/2] printk: Make printk() completely async Andreas Mohr

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