From: Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>
To: Jakub Kicinski <jakub.kicinski@netronome.com>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, ast@kernel.org, daniel@iogearbox.net,
dinan.gunawardena@netronome.com, jiri@resnulli.us,
john.fastabend@gmail.com, kubakici@wp.pl
Subject: Re: [RFCv2 07/16] bpf: enable non-core use of the verfier
Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2016 10:32:51 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160827173250.GA38477@ast-mbp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160827124004.43728202@jkicinski-Precision-T1700>
On Sat, Aug 27, 2016 at 12:40:04PM +0100, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
> On Fri, 26 Aug 2016 16:29:05 -0700, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
> > On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 07:06:06PM +0100, Jakub Kicinski wrote:
> > > Advanced JIT compilers and translators may want to use
> > > eBPF verifier as a base for parsers or to perform custom
> > > checks and validations.
> > >
> > > Add ability for external users to invoke the verifier
> > > and provide callbacks to be invoked for every intruction
> > > checked. For now only add most basic callback for
> > > per-instruction pre-interpretation checks is added. More
> > > advanced users may also like to have per-instruction post
> > > callback and state comparison callback.
> > >
> > > Signed-off-by: Jakub Kicinski <jakub.kicinski@netronome.com>
> >
> > I like the apporach. Making verifier into 'bytecode parser'
> > that JITs can reuse is a good design choice.
> > The only thing I would suggest is to tweak the verifier to
> > avoid in-place state recording. Then I think patch 8 for
> > clone/unclone of the program won't be needed, since verifier
> > will be read-only from bytecode point of view and patch 9
> > also will be slightly cleaner.
> > I think there are very few places in verifier that do this
> > state keeping inside insn. It was bugging me for some time.
> > Good time to clean that up.
> > Unless I misunderstand the patches 7,8,9...
>
> Agreed, I think the verifier only modifies the program to
> store pointer types in imm field. I will try to come up
> a way around this, any suggestions? Perhaps state_equal()
probably array_of_insn_aux_data[num_insns] should do it.
Unlike reg_state that is forked on branches, this array
is only one.
> logic could be modified to downgrade pointers to UNKONWNs
> when it detects other state had incompatible pointer type.
>
> > There is also small concern for patches 5 and 6 that add
> > more register state information. Potentially that extra
> > state can prevent states_equal() to recognize equivalent
> > states. Only patch 9 uses that info, right?
>
> 5 and 6 recognize more constant loads, those can only
> upgrade some UNKNOWN_VALUEs to CONST_IMMs. So yes, if the
> verifier hits the CONST first and then tries with UNKNOWN
> it will have to reverify the path.
>
> > Another question is do you need all state walking that
> > verifier does or single linear pass through insns
> > would have worked?
> > Looks like you're only using CONST_IMM and PTR_TO_CTX
> > state, right?
>
> I think I need all the parsing. Right now I mostly need
> the verification to check that exit codes are specific
> CONST_IMMs. Clang quite happily does this:
>
> r0 <- 0
> if (...)
> r0 <- 1
> exit
I see. Indeed then you'd need the verifier to walk all paths
to make sure constant return values.
If you only need yes/no check then such info can probably be
collected unconditionally during initial program load.
Like prog->cb_access flag.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-08-27 17:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-08-26 18:05 [RFCv2 00/16] BPF hardware offload (cls_bpf for now) Jakub Kicinski
2016-08-26 18:06 ` [RFCv2 01/16] add basic register-field manipulation macros Jakub Kicinski
2016-08-29 14:34 ` Daniel Borkmann
2016-08-29 15:07 ` Jakub Kicinski
2016-08-29 15:40 ` Daniel Borkmann
2016-08-26 18:06 ` [RFCv2 02/16] net: cls_bpf: add hardware offload Jakub Kicinski
2016-08-29 14:51 ` Daniel Borkmann
2016-08-26 18:06 ` [RFCv2 03/16] net: cls_bpf: limit hardware offload by software-only flag Jakub Kicinski
2016-08-29 15:06 ` Daniel Borkmann
2016-08-29 15:15 ` Jakub Kicinski
2016-08-26 18:06 ` [RFCv2 04/16] net: cls_bpf: add support for marking filters as hardware-only Jakub Kicinski
2016-08-29 15:28 ` Daniel Borkmann
2016-08-26 18:06 ` [RFCv2 05/16] bpf: recognize 64bit immediate loads as consts Jakub Kicinski
2016-08-26 18:06 ` [RFCv2 06/16] bpf: verifier: recognize rN ^ rN as load of 0 Jakub Kicinski
2016-08-26 18:06 ` [RFCv2 07/16] bpf: enable non-core use of the verfier Jakub Kicinski
2016-08-26 23:29 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2016-08-27 11:40 ` Jakub Kicinski
2016-08-27 17:32 ` Alexei Starovoitov [this message]
2016-08-29 20:13 ` Daniel Borkmann
2016-08-29 20:17 ` Daniel Borkmann
2016-08-30 10:48 ` Jakub Kicinski
2016-08-30 19:07 ` Daniel Borkmann
2016-08-30 20:22 ` Jakub Kicinski
2016-08-30 20:48 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2016-08-30 21:00 ` Daniel Borkmann
2016-08-31 1:18 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2016-08-26 18:06 ` [RFCv2 08/16] bpf: export bpf_prog_clone functions Jakub Kicinski
2016-08-26 18:06 ` [RFCv2 09/16] nfp: add BPF to NFP code translator Jakub Kicinski
2016-08-26 18:06 ` [RFCv2 10/16] nfp: bpf: add hardware bpf offload Jakub Kicinski
2016-08-26 18:06 ` [RFCv2 11/16] net: cls_bpf: allow offloaded filters to update stats Jakub Kicinski
2016-08-29 20:43 ` Daniel Borkmann
2016-08-26 18:06 ` [RFCv2 12/16] net: bpf: " Jakub Kicinski
2016-08-26 18:06 ` [RFCv2 13/16] nfp: bpf: add packet marking support Jakub Kicinski
2016-08-26 18:06 ` [RFCv2 14/16] net: act_mirred: allow statistic updates from offloaded actions Jakub Kicinski
2016-08-26 18:06 ` [RFCv2 15/16] nfp: bpf: add support for legacy redirect action Jakub Kicinski
2016-08-26 18:06 ` [RFCv2 16/16] nfp: bpf: add offload of TC direct action mode Jakub Kicinski
2016-08-29 21:09 ` Daniel Borkmann
2016-08-30 10:52 ` Jakub Kicinski
2016-08-30 20:02 ` Daniel Borkmann
2016-08-30 20:50 ` Jakub Kicinski
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