From: "Piotr Dałek" <branch@predictor.org.pl>
To: Ceph Development <ceph-devel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Accelerating crush with SIMD
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2016 11:16:56 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160829091656.GA10692@predictor> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <57C3F8CF.8060006@dachary.org>
On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 10:56:47AM +0200, Loic Dachary wrote:
> Hi Greg,
>
> On 29/08/2016 06:28, Gregory Farnum wrote:
> > On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 10:59 AM, Loic Dachary <loic@dachary.org> wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Could we significantly accelerate crush with SIMD instructions ? I don't remember the idea being discussed but maybe I missed it.
> >
> > I think it was attempted, but using a lookup table method turned out
> > to be much faster. Sage did some prototyping and then some folks from
> > Intel did a lot of heavy optimization; I'd be surprised if anybody
> > managed to speed up the CRUSH calculations much at this point (at
> > least, without changing the fundamental math involved).
> >
> > Sorry I can't be more detailed; the actual CRUSH implementation is
> > something I've largely left alone. I imagine the optimization points
> > become pretty clear running git blame or something though. ;)
>
> I was not thinking of accelerating the crush hash function or the straw2 function, but to have them run simultaneously on 4/8/16 items at a time using _mm, _mm256 or _mm512 instructions[1], when possible. I'll put together a proof of concept later today to clarify what I have in mind.
>
> Cheers
>
> [1] https://software.intel.com/sites/landingpage/IntrinsicsGuide/
Last time I checked, it didn't make sense in any way as crush functions were
fast enough already, and there was little room for parallelizing
calculations. This *is* possible, but requires a lot of careful rework on
all parts that actually use it. Note that just calculating 4/8/16 hashes at
once doesn't mean instant benefit as calculation is only the part of story;
you need to pack and unpack data from source/to destination and this takes
time too. Also, I don't think Ceph does so many crush recalculations per
second to make such rework feasible - but feel free to prove me wrong.
Best regards,
--
Piotr Dałek
branch@predictor.org.pl
http://blog.predictor.org.pl
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-08-29 9:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-08-28 17:59 Accelerating crush with SIMD Loic Dachary
2016-08-29 4:28 ` Gregory Farnum
2016-08-29 8:56 ` Loic Dachary
2016-08-29 9:16 ` Piotr Dałek [this message]
2016-08-29 18:15 ` Gregory Farnum
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