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From: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
To: Jiri Olsa <jolsa@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, acme@kernel.org,
	adrian.hunter@intel.com, alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com,
	hekuang@huawei.com, jolsa@kernel.org, mingo@redhat.com,
	peterz@infradead.org, wangnan0@huawei.com
Subject: Re: [RFCv3 2/2] perf: util: support sysfs supported_cpumask file
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2016 11:46:16 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160831104415.GD4783@leverpostej> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160812100123.GB25813@krava>

Hi,

Apologies for the delay in replying.

On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 12:01:23PM +0200, Jiri Olsa wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 11, 2016 at 05:36:06PM +0100, Mark Rutland wrote:
> > The perf tools can read a cpumask file for a PMU, describing a subset of
> > CPUs which that PMU covers. So far this has only been used to cater for
> > uncore PMUs, which in practice happen to only have a single CPU
> > described in the mask.
> > 
> > Until recently, the perf tools only correctly handled cpumask containing
> > a single CPU, and only when monitoring in system-wide mode. For example,
> > prior to commit 00e727bb389359c8 ("perf stat: Balance opening and
> > reading events"), a mask with more than a single CPU could cause
> > perf stat to hang. When a CPU PMU covers a subset of CPUs, but lacks a
> > cpumask, perf record will fail to open events (on the cores the PMU does
> > not support), and gives up.
> > 
> > For systems with heterogeneous CPUs such as ARM big.LITTLE systems, this
> > presents a problem. We have a PMU for each microarchitecture (e.g. a big
> > PMU and a little PMU), and would like to expose a cpumask for each (so
> > as to allow perf record and other tools to do the right thing). However,
> > doing so kernel-side will cause old perf binaries to not function (e.g.
> > hitting the issue solved by 00e727bb389359c8), and thus commits the
> > cardinal sin of breaking (existing) userspace.
> > 
> > To address this chicken-and-egg problem, this patch adds support got a
> > new file, supported_cpumask, which is largely identical to the existing
> > cpumask file. A kernel can expose this file, knowing that new perf
> > binaries will correctly support it, while old perf binaries will not
> > look for it (and thus will not be broken).
> 
> I might have asked before, but what's the kernel side state of this?

Kernel-side, we do not currently expose a cpumask, and I do not have a
current patch series to do so. I wanted to figure out if this was the
right direction or whether I was going off into the weeds.

Clearly that's jsut confusing, so I guess I should respin this long with
the kernel-side patches?

Implementation wise, it's fairly trivial to add (e.g. [1]).

Thanks,
Mark.

[1] http://lkml.kernel.org/r/1466529109-21715-9-git-send-email-jeremy.linton@arm.com

      reply	other threads:[~2016-08-31 10:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-08-11 16:36 [RFCv3 0/2] perf tools: play nicely with CPU PMU cpumasks Mark Rutland
2016-08-11 16:36 ` [RFCv3 1/2] perf: util: only open events on CPUs an evsel permits Mark Rutland
2016-08-11 16:36 ` [RFCv3 2/2] perf: util: support sysfs supported_cpumask file Mark Rutland
2016-08-12 10:01   ` Jiri Olsa
2016-08-31 10:46     ` Mark Rutland [this message]

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