All of lore.kernel.org
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Bin Liu <b-liu@ti.com>
To: "Matwey V. Kornilov" <matwey@sai.msu.ru>
Cc: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>, <hdegoede@redhat.com>,
	<linux-media@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-usb@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: musb: isoc pkt loss with pwc
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2016 22:28:26 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160912032826.GB18340@uda0271908> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJs94EZbTT7TyEyc5QjKvybDdR1hORd-z1sD=yyYNj=kzPQ6tw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 11:44:33PM +0300, Matwey V. Kornilov wrote:
> 2016-08-30 21:30 GMT+03:00 Bin Liu <b-liu@ti.com>:
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 01:13:55PM +0300, Matwey V. Kornilov wrote:
> >> Hello Bin,
> >>
> >> I would like to start new thread on my issue. Let me recall where the issue is:
> >> There is 100% frame lost in pwc webcam driver due to lots of
> >> zero-length packages coming from musb driver.
> >
> > What is the video resolution and fps?
> 
> 640x480 YUV420 10 frames per second.
> pwc uses proprietary compression during device-host transmission, but
> I don't know how effective it is.

The data rate for VGA YUV420 @10fps is 640x480*1.5*10 = 4.6MB/s, which
is much higher than full-speed 12Mbps.  So the video data on the bus is
compressed, not YUV420, I believe.

> 
> >
> >> The issue is present in all kernels (including 4.8) starting from the commit:
> >>
> >> f551e13529833e052f75ec628a8af7b034af20f9 ("Revert "usb: musb:
> >> musb_host: Enable HCD_BH flag to handle urb return in bottom half"")
> >
> > What is the behavior without this commit?
> 
> Without this commit all frames are being received correctly. Single

Which means without this commit your camera has been working without
issues, and this is a regression with this commit, right?

> one issue is a number of zero byte package at the beginning of iso
> stream (probably during camera internal sync, I have to check how the
> stream is started on x86 later). But they are never repeated after
> this.

I think this zero byte packet is normal. I don't know much about pwc,
but with uvc cameras, the beginning of the stream is similar, with many
12-bytes packets. 12 byte is typical uvc header length, so 12-byte
packet means zero data payload.

> 
> >>
> >> The issue is here both when DMA enabled and DMA disabled.
> >>
> >> Attached here is a plot. The vertical axis designates the value of
> >> rx_count variable from function musb_host_packet_rx(). One may see
> >> that there are only two possibilities: 0 bytes and 956 bytes.
> >> The horizontal axis is the last three digits of the timestamp when
> >> musb_host_packet_rx() invoked. I.e for [   38.115379] it is 379. Given
> >> that my webcam is USB 1.1 and base time is 1 ms, then all frames
> >> should be grouped close to some single value. (Repeating package
> >> receive event every 1 ms won't change last tree digits considerably)
> >> One may see that it is not true, in practice there are two groups. And
> >> receive time strongly correlates with the package size. Packages
> >> received near round ms are 956 bytes long, packages received near 400
> >> us are 0 bytes long.
> >
> > When the host IN packet passed the deadline, the device drops the video
> > data, so device only sends 0 byte packet (or 12 bytes which is only the
> > uvc header without data payload).
> 
> Doesn't it mean that free part of the frame, i.e (1 msec - (t_IN -
> t_SOF)) is not enough to transmit 956 bytes in device firmware
> opinion?
> 
> >
> >>
> >> I don't know how exactly SOF and IN are synchronized in musb, could
> >> someone give a hint? But from what I see the time difference between
> >> subsequent IN package requests is sometimes more than 1 ms due to
> >> heavy urb->complete() callback. After such events only zero length
> >
> > Why musb delayed the IN packets, it needs to be investigated.  I will
> > start to look at this webcam issue with musb soon, after I cleaned up
> > the musb patches queued recently. I will update once I have progress in
> > my investigation.
> 
> The last package in URB has different code path.
> IN after the last package of URB is not requested in musb_host_packet_rx().
> Instead, IN request is performed in the end of musb_advance_schedule()
> by musb_start_urb().

I am seeing the samilar issue with my Logitech pro9000 camera, and I
have been looking at it whenever I got some time.

I believe the IN after the last packet is coming from a new URB, that is
why it is performed by musb_start_urb().

> musb_advance_schedule() has the following code:
> 
>         qh->is_ready = 0;
>         musb_giveback(musb, urb, status);
>         qh->is_ready = ready;
> 
> Which can be executed pretty long if urb->complete() handler is not
> postphoned by HCD_BH.
> In my case, it takes about 300 us for pwc urb->complete() to run.

My understanding so far is that when the current RX URB is completed in
musb host driver, musb_giveback() is called which triggers
urb->complete(), the uvc driver (pwc driver in your case) parses the
packets, to know if further video data is needed. If so, a new URB is
generated, so IN request is performed again.

> Probably, the logic should be modified here, to run giveback on
> current URB after the start of next URB.

I believe this is what we have now, giveback is called before the next
URB. 

But still, musb driver has to wait for the next URB, which is generated
by uvc/pwc when giveback is done. Until then, there is no IN on the bus.

> 
> >
> >> packages are received. Surprisingly, that `synchronization' is
> >> recovered sometimes in the middle of URB like the following:
> >>
> >> [  163.207363] musb int
> >> [  163.207380] rx_count 0
> >> [  163.207393] req pkt c9c76200 // Expected musb int at 163.208393
> >> [  163.207403] int end
> >> // No interrupt at 163.208393
> >> [  163.209001] musb int
> >> [  163.209017] rx_count 956
> >> [  163.209108] req pkt c9c76200
> >> [  163.209118] int end
> >
> > It looks like you used plain printk for these debug logs, which normally
> > is not a good idea for this type of performance debugging. printk
> > changes timing especially if the log is printed via uart console.
> >
> 
> I think next time I will use tracepoints or something like that. Thank
> you for pointing.
> 
> >> And then the series of 956 bytes long packages are received until URB
> >> giveback will occasionally break it again.
> >> Do I understand correctly, that SOF is generated every 1 ms by
> >> hardware and should be followed by IN immediately?
> >
> > My understanding is that is does not have to be 'immediately', for
> > example, in a few ns, it should be okay as long as the interval of IN
> > packets is fixed, but I forgot what the tolerance is, I haven't read the
> > related Specs for a long time.
> 
> But, If IN is postponed by 500 usec, then it means that half of frame
> is wasted for isochronous transmission. Right?

500us to too much delay, it will cause data drop on the camera side.

Regards,
-Bin.

> 
> >
> >> If so, it is not clear to me how they should be aligned when the time
> >> difference between to subsequent INs is greater than 1ms.
> >
> > It is up to the device firmware, which should have an internal clock to
> > sync the received IN packets, and adjust the data payload to be send.
> > This is the basics in video/audio applications.
> >
> > Regards,
> > -Bin.
> >
> >>
> >> --
> >> With best regards,
> >> Matwey V. Kornilov.
> >> Sternberg Astronomical Institute, Lomonosov Moscow State University, Russia
> >> 119991, Moscow, Universitetsky pr-k 13, +7 (495) 9392382
> >
> >
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> With best regards,
> Matwey V. Kornilov.
> Sternberg Astronomical Institute, Lomonosov Moscow State University, Russia
> 119991, Moscow, Universitetsky pr-k 13, +7 (495) 9392382

  reply	other threads:[~2016-09-12  3:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-08-28 10:13 musb: isoc pkt loss with pwc Matwey V. Kornilov
2016-08-30 18:30 ` Bin Liu
2016-08-30 20:44   ` Matwey V. Kornilov
2016-09-12  3:28     ` Bin Liu [this message]
2016-09-12  8:52       ` Matwey V. Kornilov
2016-09-12 18:57         ` Bin Liu
2016-09-12 19:38           ` Matwey V. Kornilov
2016-10-15 19:25             ` Matwey V. Kornilov
2016-11-01 20:33               ` Bin Liu
2017-01-27 17:13                 ` Matwey V. Kornilov
2017-04-15 14:58 ` Matwey V. Kornilov

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=20160912032826.GB18340@uda0271908 \
    --to=b-liu@ti.com \
    --cc=hdegoede@redhat.com \
    --cc=linux-media@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-usb@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=matwey@sai.msu.ru \
    --cc=stern@rowland.harvard.edu \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is an external index of several public inboxes,
see mirroring instructions on how to clone and mirror
all data and code used by this external index.