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From: Roman Mamedov <rm@romanrm.net>
To: Zygo Blaxell <ce3g8jdj@umail.furryterror.org>
Cc: Chris Murphy <lists@colorremedies.com>,
	Hugo Mills <hugo@carfax.org.uk>,
	"linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org" <linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	Austin Hemmelgarn <ahferroin7@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: RAID system with adaption to changed number of disks
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2016 00:33:31 +0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161013003331.5e33c006@natsu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20161012191915.GF26140@hungrycats.org>

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On Wed, 12 Oct 2016 15:19:16 -0400
Zygo Blaxell <ce3g8jdj@umail.furryterror.org> wrote:

> I'm not even sure btrfs does this--I haven't checked precisely what
> it does in dup mode.  It could send both copies of metadata to the
> disks with a single barrier to separate both metadata updates from
> the superblock updates.  That would be bad in this particular case.

It would be bad in any case, including a single physical disk and no RAID, and
I don't think there's any basis to speculate that mdadm doesn't implement
write barriers properly.

> In degraded RAID5/6 mode, all writes temporarily corrupt data, so if there
> is an interruption (system crash, a disk times out, etc) in degraded mode,

Moreover, in any non-COW system writes temporarily corrupt data. So again,
writing to a (degraded or not) mdadm RAID5 is not much different than writing
to a single physical disk. However I believe in the Btrfs case metadata is
always COW, so this particular problem may be not as relevant here in the
first place.

-- 
With respect,
Roman

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  reply	other threads:[~2016-10-12 19:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-10-11 15:14 RAID system with adaption to changed number of disks Philip Louis Moetteli
2016-10-11 16:06 ` Hugo Mills
2016-10-11 23:58   ` Chris Murphy
2016-10-12  1:32     ` Qu Wenruo
2016-10-12  4:37       ` Zygo Blaxell
2016-10-12  5:48         ` Qu Wenruo
2016-10-12 17:19           ` Zygo Blaxell
2016-10-12 19:55             ` Adam Borowski
2016-10-12 21:10               ` Zygo Blaxell
2016-10-13  3:40                 ` Adam Borowski
2016-10-12 20:41             ` Chris Murphy
2016-10-13  0:35             ` Qu Wenruo
2016-10-13 21:03               ` Zygo Blaxell
2016-10-14  1:24                 ` Qu Wenruo
2016-10-14  7:16                   ` Chris Murphy
2016-10-14 19:55                     ` Zygo Blaxell
2016-10-14 21:19                       ` Duncan
2016-10-14 21:38                       ` Chris Murphy
2016-10-14 22:30                         ` Chris Murphy
2016-10-15  3:19                           ` Zygo Blaxell
2016-10-12  7:02         ` Anand Jain
2016-10-12  7:25     ` Roman Mamedov
2016-10-12 17:31       ` Zygo Blaxell
2016-10-12 19:19         ` Zygo Blaxell
2016-10-12 19:33           ` Roman Mamedov [this message]
2016-10-12 20:33             ` Zygo Blaxell
2016-10-11 16:37 ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2016-10-11 17:16 ` Tomasz Kusmierz
2016-10-11 17:29 ` ronnie sahlberg
2016-10-12  1:33 ` Dan Mons

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