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From: Pablo Neira Ayuso <pablo@netfilter.org>
To: Florian Westphal <fw@strlen.de>
Cc: Nicolas Dichtel <nicolas.dichtel@6wind.com>,
	davem@davemloft.net, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH net 2/2] conntrack: enable to tune gc parameters
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2016 12:53:27 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161014105327.GA8655@salvia> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20161014103726.GA10404@breakpoint.cc>

On Fri, Oct 14, 2016 at 12:37:26PM +0200, Florian Westphal wrote:
> Nicolas Dichtel <nicolas.dichtel@6wind.com> wrote:
> > Le 13/10/2016 à 22:43, Florian Westphal a écrit :
[...]
> > > (Or cause too many useless scans)
> > > 
> > > Another idea worth trying might be to get rid of the max cap and
> > > instead break early in case too many jiffies expired.
> > > 
> > > I don't want to add sysctl knobs for this unless absolutely needed; its already
> > > possible to 'force' eviction cycle by running 'conntrack -L'.
> > > 
> > Sure, but this is not a "real" solution, just a workaround.
> > We need to find a way to deliver conntrack deletion events in a reasonable
> > delay, whatever the traffic on the machine is.
> 
> Agree, but that depends on what 'reasonable' means and what kind of
> uneeded cpu churn we're willing to add.
> 
> We can add a sysctl for this but we should use a low default to not do
> too much unneeded work.
> 
> So what about your original patch, but only add
> 
> nf_conntrack_gc_interval
> 
> (and also add instant-resched in case entire budget was consumed)?

I would prefer not to expose sysctl knobs, if we don't really know
what good default values are good, then we cannot expect our users to
know this for us.

I would go tune this in a way that this resembles to the previous
behaviour.

  reply	other threads:[~2016-10-14 10:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-10-10 10:18 [PATCH net 0/2] conntrack update Nicolas Dichtel
2016-10-10 10:18 ` [PATCH net 1/2] conntrack: remove obsolete sysctl (nf_conntrack_events_retry_timeout) Nicolas Dichtel
2016-10-10 13:57   ` Florian Westphal
2016-10-17 15:39     ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2016-10-10 10:18 ` [PATCH net 2/2] conntrack: enable to tune gc parameters Nicolas Dichtel
2016-10-10 14:04   ` Florian Westphal
2016-10-10 15:24     ` Nicolas Dichtel
2016-10-13 20:43       ` Florian Westphal
2016-10-14 10:12         ` Nicolas Dichtel
2016-10-14 10:37           ` Florian Westphal
2016-10-14 10:53             ` Pablo Neira Ayuso [this message]
2016-10-14 11:16               ` Florian Westphal
2016-10-18  8:30               ` [PATCH net] conntrack: perform a full scan in gc Nicolas Dichtel
2016-10-18  8:47                 ` Florian Westphal
2016-10-18 10:06                   ` Nicolas Dichtel
2016-10-18 12:37                     ` [PATCH net] conntrack: restart gc immediately if GC_MAX_EVICTS is reached Nicolas Dichtel
2016-10-19 16:02                       ` Florian Westphal
2016-10-19 16:14                       ` Pablo Neira Ayuso
2016-10-20  8:50                     ` [PATCH net] conntrack: perform a full scan in gc Nicolas Dichtel

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