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From: Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>
To: zhouxianrong@huawei.com
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk,
	mingo@redhat.com, peterz@infradead.org, hannes@cmpxchg.org,
	vbabka@suse.cz, mhocko@suse.com, vdavydov.dev@gmail.com,
	minchan@kernel.org, riel@redhat.com, zhouxiyu@huawei.com,
	zhangshiming5@huawei.com, won.ho.park@huawei.com,
	tuxiaobing@huawei.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] bdi flusher should not be throttled here when it fall into buddy slow path
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2016 10:59:12 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161018095912.GD22174@techsingularity.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1476774765-21130-1-git-send-email-zhouxianrong@huawei.com>

On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 03:12:45PM +0800, zhouxianrong@huawei.com wrote:
> From: z00281421 <z00281421@notesmail.huawei.com>
> 
> bdi flusher may enter page alloc slow path due to writepage and kmalloc. 
> in that case the flusher as a direct reclaimer should not be throttled here
> because it can not to reclaim clean file pages or anaonymous pages
> for next moment; furthermore writeback rate of dirty pages would be
> slow down and other direct reclaimers and kswapd would be affected.
> bdi flusher should be iosceduled by get_request rather than here.
> 
> Signed-off-by: z00281421 <z00281421@notesmail.huawei.com>

What does this patch do that PF_LESS_THROTTLE is not doing already if
there is an underlying BDI?

There have been a few patches like this recently that look like they might
do something useful but are subtle. They really should be accompanied by
a test case and data showing they either fix a functional issue (machine
livelocking due to writeback not making progress) or a performance issue.

-- 
Mel Gorman
SUSE Labs

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From: Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>
To: zhouxianrong@huawei.com
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk,
	mingo@redhat.com, peterz@infradead.org, hannes@cmpxchg.org,
	vbabka@suse.cz, mhocko@suse.com, vdavydov.dev@gmail.com,
	minchan@kernel.org, riel@redhat.com, zhouxiyu@huawei.com,
	zhangshiming5@huawei.com, won.ho.park@huawei.com,
	tuxiaobing@huawei.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] bdi flusher should not be throttled here when it fall into buddy slow path
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2016 10:59:12 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161018095912.GD22174@techsingularity.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1476774765-21130-1-git-send-email-zhouxianrong@huawei.com>

On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 03:12:45PM +0800, zhouxianrong@huawei.com wrote:
> From: z00281421 <z00281421@notesmail.huawei.com>
> 
> bdi flusher may enter page alloc slow path due to writepage and kmalloc. 
> in that case the flusher as a direct reclaimer should not be throttled here
> because it can not to reclaim clean file pages or anaonymous pages
> for next moment; furthermore writeback rate of dirty pages would be
> slow down and other direct reclaimers and kswapd would be affected.
> bdi flusher should be iosceduled by get_request rather than here.
> 
> Signed-off-by: z00281421 <z00281421@notesmail.huawei.com>

What does this patch do that PF_LESS_THROTTLE is not doing already if
there is an underlying BDI?

There have been a few patches like this recently that look like they might
do something useful but are subtle. They really should be accompanied by
a test case and data showing they either fix a functional issue (machine
livelocking due to writeback not making progress) or a performance issue.

-- 
Mel Gorman
SUSE Labs

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-10-18  9:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-10-18  7:12 [PATCH] bdi flusher should not be throttled here when it fall into buddy slow path zhouxianrong
2016-10-18  7:12 ` zhouxianrong
2016-10-18  9:34 ` Hillf Danton
2016-10-18  9:34   ` Hillf Danton
2016-10-18  9:59 ` Mel Gorman [this message]
2016-10-18  9:59   ` Mel Gorman
2016-10-18 11:08   ` zhouxianrong
2016-10-18 11:08     ` zhouxianrong
2016-10-18 11:42     ` Michal Hocko
2016-10-18 11:42       ` Michal Hocko
2016-10-20 12:38 ` zhouxianrong
2016-10-20 12:38   ` zhouxianrong
2016-10-20 13:05   ` Mika Penttilä
2016-10-20 13:05     ` Mika Penttilä
2016-10-20 13:28   ` Michal Hocko
2016-10-20 13:28     ` Michal Hocko

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